Pathfinder 2E Taking20 -"I'm Quitting Pathfinder 2e Because of This Issue"

[CapnZapp]

The magic sword is correct.

 

[Panjumanju]

The whole "T-Rex all the time because optimal" argument sounds to me like they've over-thought the fact that they're really just bored of the game itself. They've reached the ceiling on how mush systerm-mastery they can do, and they're tired of PF2. That should be fine in and of itself, but I suspect it's a lot easier to blame some supposed inherent flaw in the system.

//Panjumanju

 

[FrozenNorth]

It’s been about a week since I saw the video, but didn’t Taking20 say that his party had had a TPK at level 9, and that it had been his first TPK in like a decade?

It seems his players already tended to optimize, but if you add a TPK at level 9 to that, I can see why his players felt they had to choose the “optimal” tactic each round to survive.

On a non-PF2 note, this is why I tend to be leery of optimization in general: you end up excluding a lot of interesting character ideas simply because they aren’t optimal.

 

[Retreater]

It’s been about a week since I saw the video, but didn’t Taking20 say that his party had had a TPK at level 9, and that it had been his first TPK in like a decade?

Yeah. He must be a rookie. I had my first TPK in the adventure he's running at 3rd level.
Seriously, I have regular TPKs regardless of the system I'm running. It just stings a little more in PF2 because of the time it takes to build characters and reduces their investment in the Adventure Path.

 

[embee]

Cody posted another response video.

Also, lampshading that you're beating a dead horse does not excuse beating a dead horse.

 

[CapnZapp]

It is not worth your while to discuss with somebody making money out of any attention, good or bad.

 

[Ravingdork]

Cody posted another response video.

Also, lampshading that you're beating a dead horse does not excuse beating a dead horse.

He has a really indepth analysis about a third of the way through, but he's still getting some things wrong.

 

[Raduin711]

To be honest I can’t comprehend why people feel they can bo longer play a game because they stop putting out new books for it. Blows my mind. I think it makes them easier to play because canon closed.

Whatever it is that you get out of rpg supplements: sparking new ideas, or new mechanics to play with, or new lore... every new supplement is an injection of stuff to play with. When games stop getting new books, you don't get new toys. But hey! Look over there! That RPG has new supplements! New toys to play with! Lets try that one!

 

[dave2008]

Whatever it is that you get out of rpg supplements: sparking new ideas, or new mechanics to play with, or new lore... every new supplement is an injection of stuff to play with. When games stop getting new books, you don't get new toys. But hey! Look over there! That RPG has new supplements! New toys to play with! Lets try that one!

While that is true for some, it is true for others that we can play the game foe years (decades) with only the core books.

 

[kenada]

A lack of new books is only really an issue when it correlates with a declining audience. You can only play a game for years (or decades) if there are other people to play it with you.