A Question Of Agency?

[Aldarc]

I will listen, but just worth pointing out that the person who wrote Blades in the Dark (and to be not knocking that game at all, as it is on my list of games to pick up), is probably going to have a very different take on sandbox than people in the OSR and where I am coming from.

You say that, but there is a lot more overlap in communities than you are giving credit. Steven Lumpkin, one of the co-authors to the influentially oft-cited Principia Apocrypha: Principles of Old School RPGs, or, A New OSR Primer and a big fan of West Marches campaigns is a major fan of Blades in the Dark and Band of Blades. John Harper also wrote an even more OSR inspired version of Dungeon World that tried to imagine the precursor OD&D form of the game: i.e., World of Dungeons. You'll likely find that there are a lot of people in the various "story/narrative" community that also have their feet dipped in the OSR communities as well.

Edit: @Fenris-77 beat me by seconds to the punch.

 

[Bedrockgames]

You say that, but there is a lot more overlap in communities than you are giving credit. Steven Lumpkin, one of the co-authors to the influentially oft-cited Principia Apocrypha: Principles of Old School RPGs, or, A New OSR Primer and a big fan of West Marches campaigns is a major fan of Blades in the Dark and Band of Blades. John Harper also wrote an even more OSR inspired version of Dungeon World that tried to imagine the precursor OD&D form of the game: i.e., World of Dungeons. You'll likely find that there are a lot of people in the various "story/narrative" community that also have their feet dipped in the OSR communities as well.

Edit: @Fenris-77 beat me by seconds to the punch.

I am aware of this. Like I said I used to post at Story-games.com and saw a lot of people genuinely interested in the OSR and in things like ODD. But they did often have a different take (which isn't bad). My point was simply that may be the case here. I have listened yet, so it is possible I am wrong

 

[Bedrockgames]

Probably not, surprisingly. The idea of sandbox play is pretty constant, despite the issues we've seen in this thread, and Harper's World of Dungeons is a keen rules-light OSR game, so he's obviously dialed in to the zeitgeist.

I will check this one out. I need to pick up Blades in the Dark anyways

Edit: Fenris do you know where to buy this one: I am not seeing it on Amazon for some reason

 

[Aldarc]

I will check this one out. I need to pick up Blades in the Dark anyways

Edit: Fenris do you know where to buy this one: I am not seeing it on Amazon for some reason

It's free on his itch.io page.

 

[Bedrockgames]

It's free on his itch.io page.

Thanks

 

[Fenris-77]

I will check this one out. I need to pick up Blades in the Dark anyways

Edit: Fenris do you know where to buy this one: I am not seeing it on Amazon for some reason

The good news is it's free. There is no bad news.

 

[Fenris-77]

Aldarc and I, trading Ninja's like champs. I hope someone is recording this epic duel.

 

[Bedrockgames]

It's free on his itch.io page.

There are three pages. Do I need more to run this, or is that all you need ?

 

[Fenris-77]

There are three pages. Do I need more to run this, or is that all you need ?

That's the whole game. It's not really fantasy BitD though, it's a super light OSR game with a wee PbtA engine.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

I think largely what we are seeing is a pretty strong difference of opinion in what makes a choice meaningful.

This is what I've been saying from the page one. It is highly subjective and the thing that actually matters is if the players feel that they have sufficient agency. If they do, great, if they don't, a convoluted theoretical model showing that they actually have plenty of agency isn't gonna help one bit.