So, Wandavision?


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Wolfram stout

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This is completely in my wheelhouse. I grew up in the 70s watching all (and I mean all) the sitcoms from the 50-70s. Not only was the first episode so very Dick Van Dyke, but Vision was very good at using Van Dyke's express and mannerisms. Same with Wanda emulating Samantha from bewitched in the second episode.

Trivia point, Agnas was the noisy neighbor in Bewitched that was always trying to catch Samantha doing something weird.
 


Umbran

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At the moment, I'd put the probabilities at around 50% it all being in Wanda's head, 30% it being Wanda and Vision's shared consciousness, and 20% them being in someone else's simulated reality.

There are ways that at least some part of Vision may have survived, so I'm not yet ready to write him off as a figment.

EDIT: One major reason I don't see this being entirely Wanda's fantasy is the setting. It feels rather outside her experience, while Vision / Jarvis had access and exposure to a large percentage of the world's media.

So... do folks here know the comics on these subjects?

So, at one point Wanda studies real magic under Agatha Harkness. And, after some nonsense concerning her own parentage, Wanda and Vision take a leave of absence from the Avengers, and have kids.

Note, Vision is an android. He can't sire kids. There's magic involved. Bad magic. They are shards of a demon called Master Pandemonium. So they get the demon bits back, but this kills the kids. Agatha Harkness erases Wanda's memory that she had ever had children.

Erasing her memory was one of the worst mistakes any Marvel Universe character has ever made.

It eventually leads to Wanda, with her reality warping powers, to crack. Filled with a desire for vengeance for what's been done to her, she kills a few Avengers... and then depowers 90% of mutant-kind in the House of M event...

Upshots - under extreme duress, Wanda is capable of... some very extreme stuff. Recreating Vision from nothing, and making herself pregnant, are within her wheelhouse, not just as mental figments, but as reality.
 



DammitVictor

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Upshots - under extreme duress, Wanda is capable of... some very extreme stuff. Recreating Vision from nothing, and making herself pregnant, are within her wheelhouse, not just as mental figments, but as reality.

Is she really, though? Thanos didn't even know who she was in Endgame.
 



cbwjm

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So... do folks here know the comics on these subjects?

So, at one point Wanda studies real magic under Agatha Harkness. And, after some nonsense concerning her own parentage, Wanda and Vision take a leave of absence from the Avengers, and have kids.

Note, Vision is an android. He can't sire kids. There's magic involved. Bad magic. They are shards of a demon called Master Pandemonium. So they get the demon bits back, but this kills the kids. Agatha Harkness erases Wanda's memory that she had ever had children.

Erasing her memory was one of the worst mistakes any Marvel Universe character has ever made.

It eventually leads to Wanda, with her reality warping powers, to crack. Filled with a desire for vengeance for what's been done to her, she kills a few Avengers... and then depowers 90% of mutant-kind in the House of M event...

Upshots - under extreme duress, Wanda is capable of... some very extreme stuff. Recreating Vision from nothing, and making herself pregnant, are within her wheelhouse, not just as mental figments, but as reality.

Unless this show proves otherwise, I'm not sure if she is as reality-bendingly powerful as she can be in the comics. I've always considered the movie universe characters to be a little less powerful than the comic versions, could just be my perception of them though, even Thanos seemed a pale comparison to his comic version.
 

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