D&D General UPDATE: this isn't greenlit : Jeff Grubb's Lost Mystara Sourcebook To Be Released

Ex-TSR designer Jeff Grubb wrote a Known World of Mystara sourcebook for AD&D 2E that was sadly never published. But now WotC has given permission for it's release to Shawn Stanley of the Vaults of Pandius website, the Official Mystara Homepage!

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Grubb posted on Facebook:

"A long time ago I wrote a project for TSR converting the Known World of Mystara from D&D to AD&D 2nd Edition. Through a tale of woe and intrigue, (link below) that product was never completed, and instead became Karameikos, Kingdom of Adventure.

However, I kept a copy of the unfinished manuscript (well, print-out), and a short while ago, gave it to Shawn Stanley, who runs the Pandius Website. He in turn has cleaned it up a bit, and plans to release it, free, with WotC's blessing, to fans on the website's anniversary.

It is really nice to see this surface after so many years - it is a "Lost Tome" of D&D history, and I hope fans of the setting enjoy it."


He speaks more about the story, and why he left TSR, on his blog.

Mystara is a D&D campaign setting first published in the early 1980s, and was the 'default' setting for D&D for a long time.


Updates from @Dungeonosophy

Jeff Grubb gives an overview of the book on his blog

As for the release date: Shawn Stanley, Webmaster of the Vaults of Pandius, announced (here) that June 27th is the planned release date.

Some people were wondering if Jeff is involved in the release.

I reached out to Shawn Stanley on April 10th:
"Yes I was going to reach out to him with respect to providing some sort of foreword for the release. I had been intending to do so once I had finished the graphic design - but with the release of new news yesterday, I reached out to him yesterday. I also wanted to get his okay for the editing that I had done. But yes, I would think that anything that Jeff wants to write to accompany the document would be a great idea. I do kind of agree that something a little bit less-depressing than the blog posts might be preferable - something to celebrate the release than recall the negative things that had happened during that time."
"I do hope that he will agree."


Jeff also responded to me on April 10th:
"Shawn has been in touch with me, and I will be glad to write a brief foreword for the project."

Which will be a fulfillment of Jeff's offer back in 2019:
"If you succeed [with the petition], I will be glad to provide an intro with a less-depressing history of the project."

Note Vaults of Pandius is the Official Mystara Homepage! Given that designation by WotC, back in the 2000s, when Jim Butler was managing fan policy for "other worlds." There's an official agreement and everything. That's why the site is the natural host for this.

UPDATE:
WotC's approval of this sourcebook's release have been premature, i.e. it isn't greenlit.
 

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Slight wrinkle.

From Shawn Stanley on the Mystara Reborn Facebook group.

“There has been a misunderstanding with regard to any authorisation by Wizards of the Coast regarding the publication of Jeff Grubb's Mystara manuscript. Fear not, however as the issue is still being discussed with Wizards of the Coast. Nevertheless, the publication of the manuscript is not currently authorised.

I apologise for any confusion that this misunderstanding has caused.”
 

Slight wrinkle.

From Shawn Stanley on the Mystara Reborn Facebook group.

“There has been a misunderstanding with regard to any authorisation by Wizards of the Coast regarding the publication of Jeff Grubb's Mystara manuscript. Fear not, however as the issue is still being discussed with Wizards of the Coast. Nevertheless, the publication of the manuscript is not currently authorised.

I apologise for any confusion that this misunderstanding has caused.”

That sounds like more than a wrinkle to me...
 

I would also say that the Chronicles of Mystara games are pretty damn great beat em ups. I would also STRONGLY suggest that all PS3 console owners get it before Sony shutters the PS3 online store on July 2nd.

Cuz then the only options for getting it then would be via Xbox and STEAM. Or importing the Japanese Physical PS3 copy. (which is technically the best/superior version of it but keep in mind, it's all in Japanese.)
 


Now I'm confused.
My guess, and it’s just a guess, is that either Shawn got overexcited that Wizards was even entertaining the idea, let that slip, and that rumor festered into fact; or he misread something in their conversation. Either way, here’s to hoping this little bit of excitement surrounding the manuscript pushes things over the edge into a release.
 

My guess, and it’s just a guess, is that either Shawn got overexcited that Wizards was even entertaining the idea, let that slip, and that rumor festered into fact; or he misread something in their conversation. Either way, here’s to hoping this little bit of excitement surrounding the manuscript pushes things over the edge into a release.
Or the person who gave permission didn't realize they weren't the final say in the matter.
 



This is a weird gatekeeping stereotype.

If all Critical Role fans cared about was Critical Role, the best-selling D&D books would be the corebooks and Wildemount and everything else would be dramatically less popular. But that's not what the sales charts say at all.

This stereotype doesn't seem to be based in anything more than viewing the newcomers engaging in badwrongfun, rather than embracing them.

The last few years have brought a lot of great new ideas to the hobby, both D&D specifically and RPGs more generally. Anyone deciding turning up their nose at those new ideas is doing themselves a disservice -- and you'll likely be playing those good ideas in a D&D edition anyway.

This wasn't me projecting my own personal opinions about Critical Role and Dungeons & Dragons but rather just taking a stab at why the earlier poster who people were saying was throwing shade at Critical Role and setting up that false dichotomy might have had that perspective. There definitely are a lot of stereotypes out there about who a Critical Role fan is, so that might have fed into that perspective and why one might think a Critical Role fan wouldn't have interest in a campaign setting that hasn't seen the official light of day since the mid-90's.

I'm a big Critical Role fan myself — the show inspired me to take up the DM mantle once again a few years ago when I was just getting back into the hobby after a two decade hiatus — so I wouldn't turn up my nose at anything they're doing, and I try to incorporate some of what Matt does into my own campaigns. :)
 
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