Goliaths where reprinted in Volo's, then RotFM. Genasi haven't appeared since Elemental Evil Player's Companion.Interesting, or perhaps not, that they fell off harder than Goliaths;
See this? This right here? The complete mischaracterization of what I said? This is really, really frustrating.You obviously care or you wouldn't be bothered when they are mentioned.
Then why are you making such a fuss about them?I DO NOT CARE IF THERE ARE HALFINGS IN THE GAME!!!!!!!
OMFG. Seriously?Then why are you making such a fuss about them?
More interesting to whom? Also, IIRC, there are no stats for PC species in the MM.Look, "all the fuss" that I've made, has been that I think they should be sent to the Monster Manual to make room for more interesting options in the PHB.
OMFG. Seriously?
Look, "all the fuss" that I've made, has been that I think they should be sent to the Monster Manual to make room for more interesting options in the PHB.
That's "all the fuss"? Apparently though, despite me not actually stating this anywhere, people have decided that I hate halflings, want them excised from the game, think they are bad, and a host of other things that are complete fabrications. I pointed out the quotes in the books because it speaks to how pointless it is to have them in the PHB. Even the dev's can't be bothered doing anything with them. Look for yourself. They are barely in anything and certainly never key to anything.
I'm making "all the fuss" because it's apparently not enough to simply disagree with my points. Apparently, it's much easier to fabricate a bunch of positions that I haven't expressed and argue with those. You'd think I'd said something improper about someone's mother for the reactions I'm getting here. Sheesh. Oh noes, I think that a race that has been the also ran for fifty years shouldn't be in the core four. O noes.
Yes, this I definitely support. I have always hated the subraces (imagine how racist that would be if we did the same with the humans, PHB just lists example human cultures as a part of the lore) and they're weirdly specific for generic writeup that should be usable to many setting. Just have more flexible base species and let people use that to create the subgroups.What we should really do is cut out the subraces. If we're cutting out the ability score bonuses they're somewhat redundant anyway as they mostly exist to spread around that extra point or two. Furthermore, if lots of people are playing non PHB races anyway, then the distinction between Mountain Dwarf and Hill Dwarf or Prairie Elfs and Transitional-Taiga-Tundra-zone Elf becomes even less important.
So we cut down the page count of each race and have 25 races in the PHB. Perhaps even suggest some themes for world building.
Classic: Greyhawk AD&D races
Fallen World: Nentir Vale
Gothic: Ravenloft
Magepunk: Eberron.
You are working from the assumption that there is a fixed number of races in the PHB, and that halflings somehow bumped some other "more deserving" race from a place in the PHB. This is bollocks.I pointed out the quotes in the books because it speaks to how pointless it is to have them in the PHB.
Just now you said they wereEven the dev's can't be bothered doing anything with them. They are barely in anything.
Which is it? Are they constantly mentioned, or are they barely in anything?mentioned a half dozen times in book after book after book
Lot's of things aren't "key" to anything, but still exist. I'M not key to anything, but I exist.never key to anything.
Look, "all the fuss" is you making literally dozens of posts in this thread (I gave up counting when I hit 40 in the search function). You can shout as loudly as you like about how you don't care - but when I don't care about something I don't go on for dozens of posts in a single thread about it. And the more you post and the louder you shout (using block caps for shouting) the less anyone reading you believes you don't care.Look, "all the fuss" that I've made, has been that I think they should be sent to the Monster Manual to make room for more interesting options in the PHB.