Loki! (spoiler thread)

[Blue]

Spoiler

The TVA managing to blindside the Asgardians within their own home?!
We're talking about the people who were responsible for sealing away the reality stone and you think someone time travelling would be able to bypass defences that would only eventually fail after Odin was incapacitated or dead?

Did they wipe the entire universe they acquired Sylvie from because that's the only way to avoid being discovered!

Completely mind wipe everyone on Asgard that knows about her is basically what that would have to achieve if its just pruning a branch.

So does that charge also erase any evidence of their presence and use of their tech in that location?

Sorry, but bloody hell the ramifications of this are far more serious than you might realise!

They did all of that on screen, so abundantly yes. It's called a Reset Charge.

Okay, picture this. Child!Slyvie is playing. A nexus event/timeline split occurs because Child!Sylvie does something off the Sacred Timeline. Mind you, she's "normally" does what agrees with the Sacred Timeline. Poof, we have a Variant. This does not invalidate Non-Variant!Child!Sylvie - she shows up just fine. TVA shows up a few seconds/minutes later, takes Variant!Child!Sylvie and errases back to the point of split. All we have left is non-variant!child!Slyvie playing,a nd not the slightestr hint there was ever the TVA there because the entire (tiny) timeline that happened on has been reset.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

Hmmm... I wonder if that's misinformation that is really a yet-to-be-announced Marvel show. Seems more likely to me. I guess we'll find out.

Back in May of 2020 it was originally reported that Loki had been given a 2nd season before the 1st had barely started filming. But other that that supposed filming start date that leaked back in November, there has been no other word that I can find that confirms a season 2. Just lots of speculation.

 

[Blue]

I'm pretty sure XX and XY are determined at conception.

That's chromosomal gender. Genetic gender has to do with the SRY gene being on the Y chromosome, but sometimes it jumps. Hormonal gender can vary from there as well - there are overlap in the ranges.

That's even before issues where cells may not "hear" the signal from sex hormones and not activate. Androgen insensitivity is where cells don't respond to male sex hormones called androgens and have external female genitalia even though XY chromosomes. And that separate and on top of everything before.

Chromosomal gender not matching genitalia happens. Loki and Sylvie could have the same chromosomes and different biological genders assigned at birth.

 

[Blue]

-there has been a repeated scene where one of the lokis sees another person in handcuffs/being tried in court etc. they are not Loki variants but somehow are dangerous to the timeline and yet they seem to have no problem taking people from timelines and basically erasing memories. Think theres any signifigance to these other people?

I've got unconfirmed headcanon that there is an illusionary person in that particular line that is purged for some relatively minor event in order to make all of the actual variants toe the line.

If you think about the scene of Child!Sylvie escaping, the guards did not seem nearly so quick to purge someone - she sat there trading significant looks with Ravonna before typing on the Timepad.

There's nothing to support it, but it would fit with the rest of the psychological oppression and dominace of the TVA of the rest of the variant check-in process. "Every word you've every spoken" and "melt you from the inside".

 

[Maxperson]

I've got unconfirmed headcanon that there is an illusionary person in that particular line that is purged for some relatively minor event in order to make all of the actual variants toe the line.

If you think about the scene of Child!Sylvie escaping, the guards did not seem nearly so quick to purge someone - she sat there trading significant looks with Ravonna before typing on the Timepad.

There's nothing to support it, but it would fit with the rest of the psychological oppression and dominace of the TVA of the rest of the variant check-in process. "Every word you've every spoken" and "melt you from the inside".

I just sort of figured that either Sylvie had the power of plot armor to protect her, or else she was the cause for the quick killings later.

 

[Tonguez]

I've got unconfirmed headcanon that there is an illusionary person in that particular line that is purged for some relatively minor event in order to make all of the actual variants toe the line.

If you think about the scene of Child!Sylvie escaping, the guards did not seem nearly so quick to purge someone - she sat there trading significant looks with Ravonna before typing on the Timepad.

There's nothing to support it, but it would fit with the rest of the psychological oppression and dominace of the TVA of the rest of the variant check-in process. "Every word you've every spoken" and "melt you from the inside".

Yeah even when that happened in first episode I had speculated it was an illusion - the set up just seemed too blatant. You’d have thought a Trickster like Loki would have seen through it

 

[RangerWickett]

Yeah even when that happened in first episode I had speculated it was an illusion - the set up just seemed too blatant. You’d have though a Trickster like Loki would have seen through it

I just want Loki to win through cleverness, not punching or dumb luck.

 

[Umbran]

Chromosomal gender not matching genitalia happens. Loki and Sylvie could have the same chromosomes and different biological genders assigned at birth.

Heck, they are not humans. They won't share our chromosomal or genetic makeup. Their sex/gender could be determined much differently - and no, it does not need to be based purly on genes. In some species on Earth, environmental factors (like temperature) determine how young develop.

 

[Stalker0]

Heck, they are not humans. They won't share our chromosomal or genetic makeup. Their sex/gender could be determined much differently

Yeah some species on earth have 3 distinct genetic genders, doesn’t always work how we roll.

 

[Zaukrie]

I just want Loki to win through cleverness, not punching or dumb luck.

This. Just once in this show, have him look clever.