Black Widow

[MarkB]

Just saw it and I really liked it. Of course it was much lower powered than what we've become use to in the MCU but it fit as a Spy movie. I'd rate it better than the Ironman movies and better than Age of Ultron.
Talking about spy movies I thought the villain here worked well for a spy movie, the scheme was very Bond-like and suitably vile.

Yelena (Florence Pugh) was the best character and the movie really was a hand over to the new 'Black Widow". The relationship between the sisters was great and I would have focussed on that more (and dropped the parents). It might have worked better as a series rather than a movie.
I agree that Task Master was criminally underused, the photographic reflexes werent really explored and we didnt get a cool mirror fight, in fact there werent any very good fights in the whole movie.

the best part of the movie though was OT Fagbenle, I cant wait to see him back again in Thunderbolts or Dark Avengers

To be fair, we did get a very good mirror fight, it just didn't feature Taskmaster. The fight between Natasha and Yelena in Budapest was very well done.

 

[RangerWickett]

I thought it was very fun, and the main draw was the family dynamic and everyone kind of tearing each other down with jokes but with a nugget of love deep down. We had two great action sequences (the car chase in Budapest and the helicopter rescue), and while sure, Taskmaster didn't knock it out of the park, they didn't kill that villain off, so they can always try again later.

Ideally this would have been filmed years ago and released a few months after Winter Soldier. Then Black Widow 2 could have come out at some point, with an adventure involving Nat, Steve, and Sam on the run. And then we could have released the 2021 Black Widow 3 that takes place during the blip. The first one can be this action movie with some spy stuff, the second one could be a big espionage thriller, and the third could, I dunno, involve holding society together after the blip, and stopping some fascist from taking over in the chaos.

 

[Stalker0]

In the rapid image montage of her training I saw a close up of an injection with a liquid that could be super serum.

It’s too subtle too late.

If they were going to make it canon, this was the movie to do it with. We got lots of info on Nats backstory, yet not a peep about serum.

In FWS, they made it clear as day that they were working with super soldier serum.

in fact we actually got additional notes on Nats mortal nature (the other avengers don’t need Ibprofen after a fight).

if this was much earlier in black widows tenure, I could see that hint and think “perhaps a tidbit of things to come”. But as the swan song movie…nope, Nat is just human…plain and simple

 

[RangerWickett]

Her superpower is that she has turned off falling damage.

 

[Morrus]

Her superpower is that she has turned off falling damage.

And explosion damage and car crash damage.

 

[Tonguez]

I thought it was very fun, and the main draw was the family dynamic and everyone kind of tearing each other down with jokes but with a nugget of love deep down. We had two great action sequences (the car chase in Budapest and the helicopter rescue), and while sure, Taskmaster didn't knock it out of the park, they didn't kill that villain off, so they can always try again later.

Ideally this would have been filmed years ago and released a few months after Winter Soldier. Then Black Widow 2 could have come out at some point, with an adventure involving Nat, Steve, and Sam on the run. And then we could have released the 2021 Black Widow 3 that takes place during the blip. The first one can be this action movie with some spy stuff, the second one could be a big espionage thriller, and the third could, I dunno, involve holding society together after the blip, and stopping some fascist from taking over in the chaos.

That would have been a brilliant and really does highlight the concerns that female superhero characters and Black Widow in particular were not valued in development of the MCU. At least moving forward they have a chance to give Yelena some respect, especially with Taskmaster, Val and Sharon Carter and the free Widows providing back up - Kate Bishop too if Yelena shows up in the Hawkeye series

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Loki is well done. Thanos is less so.

Thanos' plan doesn't hold up to 30 seconds of scrutiny. Which is fine, if you make it clear he really is the "Mad Titan". But they don't do that.

Yeah someone on the team must actually think Thanos plan makes sense, because the film plays it as something that would work, but at an unacceptable cost.

 

[DrunkonDuty]

I enjoyed it. One of the better MCU movies. I enjoyed the family dynamics. And yeah, Yelena stole the show.

As to Nat surviving all sorts of damage - yeah, she showed super human levels of endurance when she canonically is not supposed to. The bit where she survives a fall without any significant harm while another widow is incapacitated highlighted this. But this is nothing new for action movies and I'm happy to take in stride as a genre convention. Would I have preferred a bit more grit? Sure. But there's a limit to what Disney allows to be shown in MCU movies in any case.

 

[billd91]

Superheroes, no matter what their powers are, all have a certain amount of superhuman resilience in both the movies and the comics. Hell, just about all action movie characters do, even in the non-superheroic genres. And in the comics, the Black Widow does have some degree of super-soldier serum enhancement on top of action genre resilience.

That said, as long as there's some semblance of a nod toward how Natasha could survive a fall that incapacitated another Red Room trained Widow - I'm content. And while the incapacitated Widow seemed to fall straight down off the toppling chimney, Natasha bounced off a number of things on the way down. It's not enough for reality, but it generally is enough for superhero genre reality and the suspension of disbelief.

 

[Stephen Shomo]

Saw it on Disney+. Enjoyed it. Its main claim to fame is that it is a 98% all female cast superhero movie.

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