Loki! (spoiler thread)

[Umbran]

So looking at the show as a hole, one thing taht is never really explained is why they bring in variants in the first place for judgement. Are there variants that actually win their day in court?

Probably not. I expect they are brought in so it can be determined whether they need to be pruned, or could be turned into TSA agents.

 

[Zaukrie]

Probably not. I expect they are brought in so it can be determined whether they need to be pruned, or could be turned into TSA agents.

That was my theory.

 

[Zaukrie]

I take it as an implication that "the sacred timeline" itself has changed.

Same.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

One thing that was not answered is whether that statue of Kang/Immortus/He Who Remains, that replaced the Time Keepers statue, is of a good Variant or of a bad Variant. Spoiler articles pointed out the statue is wearing Kang's clothing from the comics, but we know the MCU plays with things like that. My guess is a good, or at least neutral one, as it seems they are still doing the same job as before, and because I would think a bad Variant would have just destroyed the TVA completely, or a lot more would have changed in an ominous way than just the statue.

 

[Mirtek]

There still wouldn't have been any alternate timelines like that available. They get pruned. That timeline spawned from his death.

Unless he had a prepared timeline he hid from the TVA

 

[Umbran]

One thing that was not answered is whether that statue of Kang/Immortus/He Who Remains, that replaced the Time Keepers statue, is of a good Variant or of a bad Variant. Spoiler articles pointed out the statue is wearing Kang's clothing from the comics, but we know the MCU plays with things like that. My guess is a good, or at least neutral one, as it seems they are still doing the same job as before, and because I would think a bad Variant would have just destroyed the TVA completely, or a lot more would have changed in an ominous way than just the statue.

Well, much of the point here is that "good" and "bad" are hard to judge. Kang Who Remains tells us that the choices are "people get pruned for being variant" or "people die in great multiversal conflict". I am not sure how we can choose one of these to be "good". They are both pretty bad choices.

What we probably have is a variant TVA dedicated to establishing a new Sacred Timeline for one of the Kangs.

 

[Zaukrie]

One thing that was not answered is whether that statue of Kang/Immortus/He Who Remains, that replaced the Time Keepers statue, is of a good Variant or of a bad Variant. Spoiler articles pointed out the statue is wearing Kang's clothing from the comics, but we know the MCU plays with things like that. My guess is a good, or at least neutral one, as it seems they are still doing the same job as before, and because I would think a bad Variant would have just destroyed the TVA completely, or a lot more would have changed in an ominous way than just the statue.

If I'm the winning Kang (say, bad guy tyrant, rather than "benevolent" tyrant like we had).....I'm using the TVA to prune Lokis and rival Kangs from other universes to stay in power......but then I've never read the comics, so who knows....

 

[Umbran]

There still wouldn't have been any alternate timelines like that available. They get pruned. That timeline spawned from his death.

We have to be careful about what that means in this context. Kang's death is not the nexus event (the proximal cause) for each new timeline - they just all now exist because he's no longer guiding pruning them.

 

[Umbran]

If I'm the winning Kang (say, bad guy tyrant, rather than "benevolent" tyrant like we had).....I'm using the TVA to prune Lokis and rival Kangs from other universes to stay in power......but then I've never read the comics, so who knows....

The comics are not a guide at this point - in the comics He Who Remains is not any version of Kang.

 

[Zaukrie]

The comics are not a guide at this point - in the comics He Who Remains is not any version of Kang.

I don't even know who Kang is.....did they even say "Kang" yesterday? (note, they may have, the sound was down low at home, and my remote doesn't work for the stereo, and I was too lazy to turn it up or admit to my wife I couldn't hear it all.....)