Swedish Chef
Adventurer
Looking for some input on the above combo of spells.
The PC is thinking of casting Dream on a sleeping character. There would be a savings throw required as per the spell as the target would not be willing.
Then, once in the dream, the PC would control the dream in order to disguise themselves and then cast Detect Thoughts and use the probing feature to try and get some info. This would require a second, different save against the Detect Thoughts.
The conundrum - Detect Thoughts as written has the following caveat "If you probe deeper, the target must make a Wisdom saving throw. If it fails, you gain Insight into its reasoning (if any), its emotional state, and something that looms large in its mind (such as something it worries over, loves, or hates). If it succeeds, the spell ends. Either way, the target knows that you are probing into its mind, and unless you shift your attention to another creature's thoughts, the creature can use its action on its turn to make an Intelligence check contested by your Intelligence check and if it succeeds, the spell ends."
On the one hand, as the DM, I applaud the ingenuity. On the other hand, the bolded text above leads me to believe that the target would still know who exactly cast the spell. The player and I discussed it and decided to throw it out to the EN World crowd and we'd both go with the general consensus.
The last detail - the target would be another PC, not an NPC.
The PC is thinking of casting Dream on a sleeping character. There would be a savings throw required as per the spell as the target would not be willing.
Then, once in the dream, the PC would control the dream in order to disguise themselves and then cast Detect Thoughts and use the probing feature to try and get some info. This would require a second, different save against the Detect Thoughts.
The conundrum - Detect Thoughts as written has the following caveat "If you probe deeper, the target must make a Wisdom saving throw. If it fails, you gain Insight into its reasoning (if any), its emotional state, and something that looms large in its mind (such as something it worries over, loves, or hates). If it succeeds, the spell ends. Either way, the target knows that you are probing into its mind, and unless you shift your attention to another creature's thoughts, the creature can use its action on its turn to make an Intelligence check contested by your Intelligence check and if it succeeds, the spell ends."
On the one hand, as the DM, I applaud the ingenuity. On the other hand, the bolded text above leads me to believe that the target would still know who exactly cast the spell. The player and I discussed it and decided to throw it out to the EN World crowd and we'd both go with the general consensus.
The last detail - the target would be another PC, not an NPC.