Spoilers Poll (Poll about spoilers not a poll containing spoilers)

[billd91]

Your use of the term "willfully ignorant" is disingenuous. People are not choosing ignorance, but rather they are choosing to enjoy a work of fiction, as I stated in a previous post, as a blank slate. To naturally encounter the prose as the author intended, instead of having it revealed, piecemeal, by another. Is it really so onerous a request to ask that you only openly post spoilers in threads that are tagged as such, or use the spoiler facility of the board to otherwise hide what you're revealing from those who don't wish to see it? I agree with the others who are saying that it's just a respect thing.

Yeah, it is so onerous to police spoilers in random threads where they might come up because that is pretty much everywhere. If you want to discuss a topic spoiler free, the responsibility should be to tag the thread “no spoilers”.

 

[Ryujin]

If in a specific thread where spoiler avoidance has been requested, sure. In other threads on other topics, no. Avoiding possible spoilers and the fallout from failing to do so is their responsibility.

It seems to me that the general rule here is the opposite; if a thread isn't specifically tagged as containing spoilers, then it's a no spoilers thread.

 

[Rune]

If in a specific thread where spoiler avoidance has been requested, sure. In other threads on other topics, no. Avoiding possible spoilers and the fallout from failing to do so is their responsibility.

That is an impossible bar to meet for someone who doesn’t have any way of knowing you might be about to spoil something, especially in a conversation that was not previously talking about that particular something. Which is to say, without any kind of warning.

Is your solution that simply not read anything you say, just to be safe? How would they know to avoid you before the initial damage is done?

As I pointed out previously, your stance is an assertion of dominance over the situationally powerless. That you have no problem with it, doesn’t change that fact.

But I’m not asking you to recognize why your stance is harmful. I’m just hoping you will respect the autonomy of the people who would be so harmed before you rob them of the chance to ignore you. Instead of blaming them for failing to meet an impossible bar that you have preemptively set for them (impossible because it relies on the reader having knowledge that they can’t already have).

 

[TheSword]

Basically if I want to avoid spoilers in @billd91 ’s world, I have to avoid every thread unless that says no spoilers. Otherwise @billd91 is free to drop his trousers and wave his season 3 finale in my face.

 

[billd91]

That is an impossible bar to meet for someone who doesn’t have any way of knowing you might be about to spoil something, especially in a conversation that was not previously talking about that particular something. Which is to say, without any kind of warning.

Is your solution that simply not read anything you say, just to be safe? How would they know to avoid you before the initial damage is done?

As I pointed out previously, your stance is an assertion of dominance over the situationally powerless. That you have no problem with it, doesn’t change that fact.

But I’m not asking you to recognize why your stance is harmful. I’m just hoping you will respect the autonomy of the people who would be so harmed before you rob them of the chance to ignore you. Instead of blaming them for failing to meet an impossible bar that you have preemptively set for them (impossible because it relies on the reader having knowledge that they can’t already have).

Harm? That seems to me to be a misuse of the term. You may learn about all sorts of things in life you don’t want to know and can’t unlearn ranging from who the killer is in Psycho to Uncle Charlie’s little blue pills being late from the pharmacy, but I seriously doubt they rise to the level of real harm.

 

[billd91]

Basically if I want to avoid spoilers in @billd91 ’s world, I have to avoid every thread unless that says no spoilers. Otherwise @billd91 is free to drop his trousers and wave his season 3 finale in my face.

You assume I’m wearing trousers.

 

[Rune]

Harm? That seems to me to be a misuse of the term. You may learn about all sorts of things in life you don’t want to know and can’t unlearn ranging from who the killer is in Psycho to Uncle Charlie’s little blue pills being late from the pharmacy, but I seriously doubt they rise to the level of real harm.

The degree to which it is harmful is irrelevant. And not your call, frankly.

 

[TheSword]

You assume I’m wearing trousers.

It was a metaphor

 

[Ryujin]

Harm? That seems to me to be a misuse of the term. You may learn about all sorts of things in life you don’t want to know and can’t unlearn ranging from who the killer is in Psycho to Uncle Charlie’s little blue pills being late from the pharmacy, but I seriously doubt they rise to the level of real harm.

Yes, I would say that "harm" is a more accurate use of wording than your own previous use of "wilful ignorance."

 

[TheSword]

I’ve never understood the argument that other people do worse things, therefore I’m allowed to do this unpleasant and rude thing because it’s less bad.

Less bad, is not good or admirable.