What If...?

[Umbran]

That’s not all we saw, though. We also saw the rise of a charismatic who infiltrates and dominates by swaying hearts and minds.*

He wasn't that charismatic. He was able to play on the grief of older folks who just lost their son. That's basic grift work, nothing advanced.

 

[Ryujin]

He wasn't that charismatic. He was able to play on the grief of older folks who just lost their son. That's basic grift work, nothing advanced.

Yes, came off as more of an opportunist to me. That particular "grift" is frequently used by absolute strangers, on the elderly.

 

[Rune]

He wasn't that charismatic. He was able to play on the grief of older folks who just lost their son. That's basic grift work, nothing advanced.

Which is why I called him a charismatic (noun). A demagogue. A Machiavellian. Or, as you say, a grifter.

(Noting that his grift is not just on the king and queen, but all Wakandans. Also, Tony, Rhodes, and Ross.)

 

[Blue]

Nicely done and once again Andy Serkis just goes to town, I kind of want to see a day in the life of ulysses klaue.

It's pretty anti-music. After the Black Panther movie, mostly what he's doing is de-composing.

 

[Dire Bare]

With one exception

Spoiler

America gets its hands on vibranium and makes slow land tanks when it could make invincible bombers.... come on!

The exception for me was America going to war with a third-world country over the assassination of a corporate CEO. Despite Wakanda certainly denying assassinating Stark, and no proof other than a Wakandan spear, which are known to be found on the black market.

 

[trappedslider]

The exception for me was America going to war with a third-world country over the assassination of a corporate CEO. Despite Wakanda certainly denying assassinating Stark, and no proof other than a Wakandan spear, which are known to be found on the black market.

Colonel Rhodes' murder was set up to look like he was killed by T'challa/Wakadans during the meet with klaue. So, not just Tony's murder.

 

[trappedslider]

It's pretty anti-music. After the Black Panther movie, mostly what he's doing is de-composing.

Huh?

 

[Umbran]

(Noting that his grift is not just on the king and queen, but all Wakandans. Also, Tony, Rhodes, and Ross.)

He doesn't really grift Ross or Rhodes, in terms of using personal charisma. Ross likes his record and effectiveness. Rhodes is merely assigned to work with him, and expects fellow officers to not betray him.

 

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[Dire Bare]

Colonel Rhodes' murder was set up to look like he was killed by T'challa/Wakadans during the meet with klaue. So, not just Tony's murder.

True . . . but it still strains credulity for me that America would go to war over two murders, one military on an off-the-books mission, the other a civilian contractor, even with strong evidence of Wakandan guilt.