D&D 5E Zooming In On Monsters of the Multiverse [UPDATED!]

Earlier, WotC announced Mordenkainen Presents Monsters of the Multiverse, a new D&D compilation of monster material from previous products updated to a new format. These screen grabs are as good as I could get them. They're not terribly clear, but you can make more out than in the original images. The screenshots show the original entry in Volo's Guide to Monsters next to the new entry in...
Earlier, WotC announced Mordenkainen Presents Monsters of the Multiverse, a new D&D compilation of monster material from previous products updated to a new format. These screen grabs are as good as I could get them. They're not terribly clear, but you can make more out than in the original images.

The screenshots show the original entry in Volo's Guide to Monsters next to the new entry in Mordenkainen Presents Monsters of the Multiverse.


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UPDATE -- a cleaned up version of the War Priest has appeared on imgur.

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OB1

Jedi Master
So it seems that this statblock is being used in The Wild Beyond The Witchlight. I don't want to read it in depth, picked it up for my eldest kid to run for me and others, but I can't find anything that says that the combat-magic-as-abilities can be affected by Counterspell anymore.

Like I said I don't want to delve too deeply into the book, but has Counterspell become of limited utility for PCs and basically a spell that it primarily meant to be used against the characters? Or is there some sort of disclamer "all of these should be considered spells, determine level via method X" somewhere?
IF WBtW is the template there will be plenty of opportunity to Counterspell. The monster statblocks either call out Spellcasting as the action or Ranged Spell Attack in the description of the action.
 

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OB1

Jedi Master
For Spellcasting action, it's like this, so I would rule that the spell is cast at it's normal level.
The ***** casts one of the following spells, requiring no spell components and using Wisdom as the spellcasting ability (spell save DC 13):
At will: commune with nature (as an action), meld into stone, stone shape
1/day: Otto’s irresistible dance

For the Ranged Spell Attack action, if it mentions a specific spell (like polymorph) I'd rule it uses the spells normal level. If it doesn't, I'd rule it's 3rd or below.
 

Azzy

ᚳᚣᚾᛖᚹᚢᛚᚠ
For Spellcasting action, it's like this, so I would rule that the spell is cast at it's normal level.
The ***** casts one of the following spells, requiring no spell components and using Wisdom as the spellcasting ability (spell save DC 13):
At will: commune with nature (as an action), meld into stone, stone shape
1/day: Otto’s irresistible dance

For the Ranged Spell Attack action, if it mentions a specific spell (like polymorph) I'd rule it uses the spells normal level. If it doesn't, I'd rule it's 3rd or below.
Completely off-topic, but I was amused. My first thought at seeing "*****" in your post was that it was a censored naughty word. Though I quickly realized that it wasn't the case, I still had a bit of fun coming up with ideas for what "*****" is a replacement for. 😁
 

Mind of tempest

(he/him)advocate for 5e psionics
What do you mean if we ever get the subclass?

If a subclass option becomes available in a new book was there never anyone in the world who was of that subclass before? And now if there suddenly are people who are taking that for the first time, how does that happen?

In a world where NPCs are only ever created with PC rules I don't see how new options could be introduced without completing rewriting the campaign world.

Not all races, but there are certainly some races that could be PC races which don't have rules for them yet. We've gotten many new races as PC options since 5e came out and yet those were all available to be NPCs before they were options.

Was that unfair?
if a concept is only ever an npc but is a cool idea to play one then I want it to be a subclass you follow but this does not mean we would ever get it.

depends on the setting.

I never said that I want something that gives the illusion for relevant bits like a mirror match boss fight, not every npc made with player systems I do not want hypercomplex for no reason.

name them as I can't think of any off the top of my head.

it is not quite the right word but was the closest word.
 

ad_hoc

(they/them)
if a concept is only ever an npc but is a cool idea to play one then I want it to be a subclass you follow but this does not mean we would ever get it.

But aren't you arguing that there can never be a 'cool idea' for an NPC not using PC rules because you are restricting them to PC rules only?

name them as I can't think of any off the top of my head.

Genasi, Aasimar, Firbolg, Goblin, Goliath, Triton, Lizardfolk, etc. etc.
 

Mind of tempest

(he/him)advocate for 5e psionics
But aren't you arguing that there can never be a 'cool idea' for an NPC not using PC rules because you are restricting them to PC rules only?



Genasi, Aasimar, Firbolg, Goblin, Goliath, Triton, Lizardfolk, etc. etc.
I never said using pc rule I said a diet pc how difficult is it to see I do not mean 3e madness?


but those do have rules for them.
 

ad_hoc

(they/them)
I never said using pc rule I said a diet pc how difficult is it to see I do not mean 3e madness?

I have been having trouble understanding you but now I have completely lost you.


but those do have rules for them.

Did they exist in your game world before they had PC rules? They weren't in the PHB. And if they were in the world isn't that unfair that players couldn't play as them?
 

Mind of tempest

(he/him)advocate for 5e psionics
I have been having trouble understanding you but now I have completely lost you.




Did they exist in your game world before they had PC rules? They weren't in the PHB. And if they were in the world isn't that unfair that players couldn't play as them?
I am suggesting stat blocks that when played by a dm feel like your fighting a PC but are really stripped down and far more simple to operate does this translate now?

no, but I would cut elves, dwarves and halfling as I find them overdone. they get added later so it is fine along as I get them I am good.
 

ad_hoc

(they/them)
I am suggesting stat blocks that when played by a dm feel like your fighting a PC but are really stripped down and far more simple to operate does this translate now?

no, but I would cut elves, dwarves and halfling as I find them overdone. they get added later so it is fine along as I get them I am good.

Is that not exactly what is being presented in the updated books?
 

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