Ancalagon
Dusty Dragon
Hello
In part for RP reasons, in part because our party really needs a ritual caster, I am considering taking the feat "ritual caster" for my fighter (yes, he qualifies).
But I was wondering... does that mean he could create scrolls? What about using them?
So to create a scroll, you must either:
So clearly a ritual caster doesn't have spell prepared. And while they "know" spells in the sense that it's in their spellbook, they don't know it by heart the way say a sorcerer would. So I think that means a ritual caster can't create scrolls. But it doesn't quite feel right.
But can they use them?
This... gets complicated. The rules say "If the spell is on your class’s spell list, you can read the scroll and cast its spell without providing any material components. "
So a strict reading means that no, fighters can't use scrolls. But I note two aspects that make me less certain about this.
1: There are a lot of ways a caster can know a spell "not on their class list". What about domain spells, or a bard magical secret? What about a feat that makes you learn a new spells? If say you have the magical adept feat to learn the spell healing word, it would be very peculiar if you couldn't use a scroll of said spell, wouldn't it? It could mean that a light cleric can make a scroll of fireball, but can't use it.
2: Fighters have access to the wizard spell lists via one subclass
I look forward to your input on these questions.
In part for RP reasons, in part because our party really needs a ritual caster, I am considering taking the feat "ritual caster" for my fighter (yes, he qualifies).
But I was wondering... does that mean he could create scrolls? What about using them?
So to create a scroll, you must either:
- have the spell prepared OR
- it must be among the character’s known spells (like a bard or warlock for example)
So clearly a ritual caster doesn't have spell prepared. And while they "know" spells in the sense that it's in their spellbook, they don't know it by heart the way say a sorcerer would. So I think that means a ritual caster can't create scrolls. But it doesn't quite feel right.
But can they use them?
This... gets complicated. The rules say "If the spell is on your class’s spell list, you can read the scroll and cast its spell without providing any material components. "
So a strict reading means that no, fighters can't use scrolls. But I note two aspects that make me less certain about this.
1: There are a lot of ways a caster can know a spell "not on their class list". What about domain spells, or a bard magical secret? What about a feat that makes you learn a new spells? If say you have the magical adept feat to learn the spell healing word, it would be very peculiar if you couldn't use a scroll of said spell, wouldn't it? It could mean that a light cleric can make a scroll of fireball, but can't use it.
2: Fighters have access to the wizard spell lists via one subclass
I look forward to your input on these questions.
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