I'm not allowed to watch Star Trek any more

[payn]

I just picked up Paramount plus for 2 months for $2. Just started binge on Picard. So far its pretty great!

 

[Orius]

Hiya!

Well, at least the demise of online streaming will be quicker than that of cable TV, so there is that.



RE: Every production company and their dog is going to have their own 'special streaming platform' for the low low price of $10/mo that the average person will have to pay $260/month to get all the shows they want to watch; resulting in people just saying "screw it!...I'm out; I'll wait for the DVD's to get released". The only streaming site I have now comes with my Amazon Prime account (because that is EASILY worth the price for where I live in regards to S/H when I order stuff online!). I ditched Netflix over "Cuties", stopped my Disney+, and got rid of all my other online "streaming" services (Hulu and I think one other...it was a long time ago).

^_^

Paul L. Ming

I used to think that but recently an ugly truth occurred to me -- we're not going to see just about any of this on DVD, Blu-Ray, whatever. That's not what the media companies want. They want complete control over their IPs, and they get that with streaming, not with any physical media whatsoever. They own it, and you're just renting time on it at their convenience. And any time they want, they'll just pull it. Maybe someone will complain about objectionable material, maybe a new executive will take over and axe programming they don't like with the usual petty and meaningless internal Hollywood politics (politics here being Hollywood's equivalent of office politics plus studio rivalries and such). Whatever the case they can pull stuff whenever they damn well please. I already hated the whole move everything worthwhile to streaming in the first place given how much it would cost, but this revelation has made hate Hollywood even more, and I thought I was already at the maximum human hate potential the way it was.

What we need is a huge consumer boycott of this stuff to force Hollywood on its knees and force some overdue changes, but I think far too many people are hooked on entertainment to do so.

I haven't read the WoT, because of what I'd heard about how the books were written - very long, and getting slow after only a few volumes.

I'm looking forward to the series, hoping that, with the full story at hand, they can pick, choose, and edit it into a good narrative.



Two things to get on Prime: Upload, and Leverage.

At least WoT is finished, unlike GoT....

 

[LongTimeLurker]

Hiya!

There's a lot more on AP than I had realized when I first 'discovered' that I got Amazon Video for free with my Prime membership (...yeah...I'm slow sometimes!...).



^_^

Paul L. Ming

you and everyone else with amazon prime; you also get a free monthly subscription o n twtich.tv. So if there's a twitch streamer you li ke, you can sub to them for free every month. There can be some interesting things on twitch...

 

[payn]

Maybe someone will complain about objectionable material, maybe a new executive will take over and axe programming they don't like with the usual petty and meaningless internal Hollywood politics (politics here being Hollywood's equivalent of office politics plus studio rivalries and such). Whatever the case they can pull stuff whenever they damn well please. I already hated the whole move everything worthwhile to streaming in the first place given how much it would cost, but this revelation has made hate Hollywood even more, and I thought I was already at the maximum human hate potential the way it was.

This has long been feared, but never actually materialized. Its true, the rights of things can shift, but once programming goes up on a stream it rarely ever comes down.

What we need is a huge consumer boycott of this stuff to force Hollywood on its knees and force some overdue changes, but I think far too many people are hooked on entertainment to do so.

Why? Cant recall the last time I even touched a DVD and the cost is low (less than seeing a movie in the theater) for most services each month. Its like a golden age of content and its quite fair and reasonable for most people.

At least WoT is finished, unlike GoT....

Total agreement on this. Though, never doubt the ability of showrunners and writing teams to tank something

 

[Morrus]

Managed to find that Pluto app but as far as I can make out you had to watch the episodes live. They’re not on demand? And I’d have to watch them in my computer not my TV. It does appear to be the ugliest, worst designed app I’ve ever seen!

 

[MarkB]

Managed to find that Pluto app but as far as I can make out you had to watch the episodes live. They’re not on demand? And I’d have to watch them in my computer not my TV. It does appear to be the ugliest, worst designed app I’ve ever seen!

The computer part doesn't bother me, as I use my PC to watch pretty much any content, but yeah, the live-only thing is pretty awful. Can't pause, can't rewind, can't go back later to take a look at a specific scene or detail if it comes up in conversation. I don't even like watching things live at the cinema these days, even aside from the whole pandemic thing.

I wound up buying the first two episodes on Amazon, but doing that for £2.50 at HD quality every week is the equivalent of shelling out on another £10/month streaming service just to watch this one show. I'm going to try to catch the episode live next week.

 

[pming]

Hiya!

I used to think that but recently an ugly truth occurred to me -- we're not going to see just about any of this on DVD, Blu-Ray, whatever. That's not what the media companies want. They want complete control over their IPs, and they get that with streaming, not with any physical media whatsoever.

What we need is a huge consumer boycott of this stuff to force Hollywood on its knees and force some overdue changes, but I think far too many people are hooked on entertainment to do so.

They can have all the 'control' over their IP they way...they just don't get to control me. Which is one of their "cost/benefit" things (e.g., "how many stubborn old farts are we going to PO and loose, versus how many kids have we brainwashed into accepting our rules unquestioned"?). Unfortunately for us old mothballs...our numbers continue to dwindle and the mass-consumer-always-on-gottahavitnow numbers are increasing.

They may want complete control...but as long as it's digital,

I know I can "just say no", because of a lot of reasons. I mean, heckin fudge, I still don't have a cell phone. Never have. Probably never will at this point, but you never know... maybe Elon will figure something out and make cell phones desirable and palatable enough for me.

Consumer boycotts work if people do them; but people have been trained since birth to rely on "digital now" stuff. I tripple-dog-dare ANYONE to give up their cell phone for TWO WEEKS. If your immediate reaction is "I can't do that, I have to have it for my job", and you aren't a Lawyer, Doctor, or President...that's my point. If you can't do that...you are too weak to do a boycott. Simple as that.

^_^

Paul L. Ming

 

[payn]

God, this thread is starting to feel like 2001 again.

 

[Ryujin]

God, this thread is starting to feel like 2001 again.

Naw. I've been on the 'net since around '94, via Toronto Freenet, so maybe late '80s

 

[Morrus]

Consumer boycotts work if people do them; but people have been trained since birth to rely on "digital now" stuff. I tripple-dog-dare ANYONE to give up their cell phone for TWO WEEKS. If your immediate reaction is "I can't do that, I have to have it for my job", and you aren't a Lawyer, Doctor, or President...that's my point. If you can't do that...you are too weak to do a boycott. Simple as that.

That's like me saying I double dog dare you to give up RPGs for 6 months. If you don't, you are weak. Maybe I just don't want to?

Anyway, you're too late. Cellphones are on their way out. Glasses are next.