Lolth dead?

Artimoff said:
I long for the day when Paul Kidd's Greyhawk novels will be as/more popular than Salvatore's Dark Elf ones.

Won't happen. The Justicar isn't as "kewl" as Drizzt.

Though he's much, much cooler, of course.
 

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CrusaderX said:


Won't happen. The Justicar isn't as "kewl" as Drizzt.

Though he's much, much cooler, of course.

I didn't mean to crap on Drizzit, just his popularity. Who is the coolest? well, that's easy... Tasslehoff Burfoot. :) He's the best character in a D&D novel hands down.
 


Yes, we killed her in Q1 Queen of the Demon Web Pits. We stabbed her with a posioned dagger and she died, apparently in 1e she was not immune to poison.

This

lead to one of our groups 'famous phrases' Anything but a one and she saves
Just a reminder, for those who ignored or deliberately forgot what standard defenses any demon has:
  • Immunity to electricity and poison.
  • Resistance to acid 10, cold 10, and fire 10.
  • Summon (Sp) Demons share the ability to summon others of their kind, typically another of their type or a small number of less powerful demons.
  • Telepathy.
  • Except where otherwise noted, demons speak Abyssal, Celestial, and Draconic.
  • A demon’s natural weapons, as well as any weapon it wields, is treated as chaotic and evil for the purpose of resolving damage reduction
So, no, Lolth isn't affect by any kind of poison. You've been fooled.
 


Just a reminder, for those who ignored or deliberately forgot what standard defenses any demon has:
  • Immunity to electricity and poison.
  • Resistance to acid 10, cold 10, and fire 10.
  • Summon (Sp) Demons share the ability to summon others of their kind, typically another of their type or a small number of less powerful demons.
  • Telepathy.
  • Except where otherwise noted, demons speak Abyssal, Celestial, and Draconic.
  • A demon’s natural weapons, as well as any weapon it wields, is treated as chaotic and evil for the purpose of resolving damage reduction
So, no, Lolth isn't affect by any kind of poison. You've been fooled.
You are replying to a post from 2003. In any case, the post was talking about Lolth from Q1, an AD&D 1e adventure and that version was fully vulnerable to poison.
 


I'd say that Lolth is as dead than this thread was.
To quote another authority on demons, that is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die.

OK, so:

1e Lolth was first shown in the Fiend Folio (which I think got her from the module Q1, Queen of the Demonweb Pits) and had 66 hp, AC -10 (think AC 30 in post-3e terms), took half damage from cold, fire, and gas, but was in fact vulnerable to acid, magic missiles, and poison as per the FF, and took 6-21 points of damage from a direct hit by holy water. It's entirely possible a 1e party could have beaten her.

The Paul Kidd Greyhawk novels were made in the first wave of OD&D nostalgia in the early 2000s and are, as far as I know, not canon, though IMHO more fun and much better written than a lot of gaming novels. ;)
 



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