TSR TSR3.5 Launches IndieGogo Campaign to "Stop" WotC

The latest in the TSR3 saga, which has gone quiet for a while, is a new IndieGoGo campaign launched to "stop Wizards of the Coast". They cite wrongful bullying of TSR, and refusal to answer requests that WotC show TSR "proof of their claims" (although the campaign page doesn't mention what those claims are). The IndieGoGo campaign was launched yesterday and has so far raised $675 (at the time...

The latest in the TSR3 saga, which has gone quiet for a while, is a new IndieGoGo campaign launched to "stop Wizards of the Coast". They cite wrongful bullying of TSR, and refusal to answer requests that WotC show TSR "proof of their claims" (although the campaign page doesn't mention what those claims are).

The IndieGoGo campaign was launched yesterday and has so far raised $675 (at the time of writing).

The action TSR seeks is a "Trademark Declaratory Judgement of Ownership" which is a court declaration about the status of something in dispute.

TSR has launched a campaign to stop Wizards of the Coast

Become a Champion of TSR and Support TSR’s campaign against Wizards of the Coast!

TSR is taking a stand against Wizards of the Coast (“WOTC”) and its wrongful bullying of TSR, our trademarks, and its public libeling and slander of all those who helped create TSR based Dungeons & Dragons and products.

Wizards of the Coast has continually bullied TSR regarding TSR’s legally owned Trademarks. Wizards of the Coast has refused to answer all of TSR's repeated requests that they show any proof of their claims. Wizards of the Coast has the vast resources behind them and is implying to bring them to bear down on TSR.


The new TSR suffered widespread pushback when it launched, which they blamed on WotC, claiming that they were under a "coordinated assault across various channels being mounted.... by [WotC]" The company announced itself earlier this year, having acquired the TSR trademark after the previous holder accidentally let it lapse. It was run by Ernie Gygax, Justin LaNasa, and Stephen Dinehart. After several weeks of controversy, the company split into two -- Wonderfilled (Stephen Dinehart), and TSR (Ernie Gygax and Justin LaNasa).


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The page also indicates an intention to "fight to have WotC's legacy product disclaimer removed" from older products (that's the disclaimer on the older books available on DMs Guild which indicates that those books are products of their time) by claiming that the disclaimer portrays the creators of those older products as "as supporting those alleged prejudices, stereotypes and bigotry, wrongfully claimed to be part of those products".


TSR will also Fight to Have the WOTC Legacy Disclaimer Removed

TSR is suing WOTC for Trademark Declaratory Judgement of Ownership . TSR will also pursue in the near future having WOTC remove the legacy content disclaimer placed on TSR based Dungeons & Dragons and other products, and retractions of any other libel and slander which alleges that racism and other heinous beliefs are incorporated into those products.

This disclaimer attempts to make a statement of fact argument, and therefore paints all of the writers, editors, artists and consumers of those products as supporting those alleged prejudices, stereotypes and bigotry, wrongfully claimed to be part of those products. This statement by Wizards of the Coast opens the possibility for the producers and players of these "Legacy Products" to face ridicule, and face the labeling as "bigots", "racists", "misogynists", and worse Cyber & Physical Attacks!

Wizards of the Coast legacy content disclaimer.

"We (Wizards) recognize that some of the legacy content available on this website does not reflect the values of the Dungeons & Dragons franchise today. Some older content may reflect ethnic, racial, and gender prejudice that were commonplace in American society at that time. These depictions were wrong then and are wrong today. This content is presented as it was originally created, because to do otherwise would be the same as claiming these prejudices never existed. Dungeons & Dragons teaches that diversity is a strength, and we strive to make our D&D products as welcoming and inclusive as possible. This part of our work will never end".


TSR3's Justin LaNasa spoke about the campaign in a YouTube video.


 

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Scribe

Legend
If your upset by bias' you might as well get rid of your internet, because no corner of the internet is free of them. You clearly have your own.

Look I personally don't think they will win this lawsuit and it's a waste of money, but actually asking questions of the person involved when reporting on a story is the most basic piece of journalism and MSM didn't bother, Clownfish did so biases or not at least he's putting some effort in, which is more then you can say for the MSM.

I just don't get journalist who don't know they are supposed to reach other to both sides for comment, it's like the basic minimum of journalism.
Sorry, where is this being picked up by Main Stream Media? Got a CNN or Fox link?
 

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Mannahnin

Scion of Murgen (He/Him)
I just don't get journalist who don't know they are supposed to reach other to both sides for comment, it's like the basic minimum of journalism.
What journalists are we talking about here?

EN World is a prominent RPG news site. @TSR-Hobbies (identified as Michael Hovermale of nuTSR, to my recollection) came on here ostensibly to answer questions. He made an account. But, at least recently, he refuses to answer questions when asked.

Justin LaNasa accused EN World of lying about TSR, but did not cite any specifics. Deset Gled and Morrus asked (link below) what Justin was talking about, but nuTSR's official representative on the board has not responded.

 
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J.Quondam

CR 1/8
If your upset by bias' you might as well get rid of your internet, because no corner of the internet is free of them. You clearly have your own.

Look I personally don't think they will win this lawsuit and it's a waste of money, but actually asking questions of the person involved when reporting on a story is the most basic piece of journalism and MSM didn't bother, Clownfish did so biases or not at least he's putting some effort in, which is more then you can say for the MSM.

I just don't get journalist who don't know they are supposed to reach other to both sides for comment, it's like the basic minimum of journalism.
I don't think the "MSM" is terribly relevant at this point, not yet anyway, as this is too tiny an issue for anyone outside the D&D bubble to care about.

More importantly, note that these guys have actively avoided engaging people trying to ask them serious questions. The reason only those one or two youtube channels like Clownfish or EvilDM get to interview them is because those outlets are biased in their favor. I might be mistaken, but as far as I can tell, TSR3 have refused to engage any other media that isn't already fistbumping their anti-woke stance.

So yes, basic journalism generally demands information direct from the sources. But that in itself requires cooperation from those sources-- which is something that TSR3 has not been forthright with.
 







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