D&D General What To Call A Gish?

[Jack Daniel]

I'd use Dweomer in an achetype called Dwimmerlance, the swordmage using pole weapons. Its kinda close to Dwimmerlaik and sounds cool.

"Dragoon" would be less of a mouthful, and it has a bit of fantasy precedent.

Part of the problem, of course, is that we're trying to coin a neologism for a concept that has no deep, resonant name in folklore and mythology. The archetypical (in the campbellian sense) great warrior-hero is often a great magician too (Odin, for example). The strict "fighting man / magic-user" split is an artifact of sword & sorcery literature, but it's deeply ingrained and difficult to overcome.

I think it's going to be very hard to do better than "gish."

 

[jmartkdr2]

"Dragoon" would be less of a mouthful, and it has a bit of fantasy precedent.

Part of the problem, of course, is that we're trying to coin a neologism for a concept that has no deep, resonant name in folklore and mythology. The archetypical (in the campbellian sense) great warrior-hero is often a great magician too (Odin, for example). The strict "fighting man / magic-user" split is an artifact of sword & sorcery literature, but it's deeply ingrained and difficult to overcome.

I think it's going to be very hard to do better than "gish."

I would both despise and be willing to live with dragoon.

 

[Tales and Chronicles]

"Dragoon" would be less of a mouthful, and it has a bit of fantasy precedent.

Part of the problem, of course, is that we're trying to coin a neologism for a concept that has no deep, resonant name in folklore and mythology. The archetypical (in the campbellian sense) great warrior-hero is often a great magician too (Odin, for example). The strict "fighting man / magic-user" split is an artifact of sword & sorcery literature, but it's deeply ingrained and difficult to overcome.

I think it's going to be very hard to do better than "gish."

I'd love Dragoon, if it comes with an at-will casting of Jump!

 

[Shardstone]

"Dragoon" would be less of a mouthful, and it has a bit of fantasy precedent.

Part of the problem, of course, is that we're trying to coin a neologism for a concept that has no deep, resonant name in folklore and mythology. The archetypical (in the campbellian sense) great warrior-hero is often a great magician too (Odin, for example). The strict "fighting man / magic-user" split is an artifact of sword & sorcery literature, but it's deeply ingrained and difficult to overcome.

I think it's going to be very hard to do better than "gish."

Plus, Gish is already in our nomenclature. We call gish classes gish classes.

 

[Thunderfoot]

I still say call it a Gish.

Gish is a stylish word that has meaning. <SNIP>

Stylish? It sounds like you stepped in something foul... "Hey watch out for that..." gishh.. 'ewwwww'

 

[Scribe]

What about arcknight, combining a cut down arcane and knight into a single word. Otherwise though, I agree with others, if nothing else jumps out as a great name then stick with swordmage.

I really liked that.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

I'd use Dweomer in an achetype called Dwimmerlance, the swordmage using pole weapons. Its kinda close to Dwimmerlaik and sounds cool.

I like the basic idea here, for sure. Lots of jumping, and forced movement, tripping, and using reactions to interrupt enemy actions.

"Dragoon" would be less of a mouthful, and it has a bit of fantasy precedent.

Dragoon is already a subclass in my Archer class. The mounted archer, with a lot of hit and run abilities and the ability to share class features with a mount.

Part of the problem, of course, is that we're trying to coin a neologism for a concept that has no deep, resonant name in folklore and mythology. The archetypical (in the campbellian sense) great warrior-hero is often a great magician too (Odin, for example).

Eh, the name doesn’t need to harken to real world lore too strongly. It’s not like Artificer is a word with any cultural resonance before it became a class.

I would both despise and be willing to live with dragoon.

Lol yeah, I definitely prefer it as a name for a mounted ranged cavalry person.

I'd love Dragoon, if it comes with an at-will casting of Jump!

Yeah while I’m not looking to use dragoon in the final fantasy sense, I do love the idea of just flat doubling a lancer subclass jump distance and height.

 

[jmartkdr2]

Every time someone writes Dweomer, I read is as 'dewormer.'

I don't want to play a dewormer.

 

[Mordhau]

Oh come on, don’t act like style guides don’t include nomenclature.

I'm puzzled by the insistence on following a style guide that is only presumed to exist in unofficial rules created by fans who don't even work for the company that is presumed to have the style guide.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

I'm puzzled by the insistence on following a style guide that is only presumed to exist in unofficial rules created by fans who don't even work for the company that is presumed to have the style guide.

There are no classes with multi word names, and many subclasses with multi word names.

A class named Arcane Warrior would stand out like a strobelight on a dark night.

It does not matter why there are no exceptions within the current rules. It just matters that creating an exception would stand out, for no reason.

For a fairly bland name that doesn’t add the to the unique style of the supplement it is going to be a part of? Not worth the jarring departure.