The Book of Boba Fett (spoilers)

[Ryujin]

Remember some stories, sure. But in 20 years, the context of those stories could have significantly changed under propaganda pressure from the Empire. Consider the idea that a xenophobic government, in the aftermath of a war largely against aliens where many people are grappling with tremendous amounts of economic difficulty, might use those factors to come to power, seize the media, order a dictatorially-run and oversized military around to suppress dissent, and manipulate the public. The Nazis turned the German public and the fringe anti-Semitism there into a genocide machine behind a monomaniacal cult of personality in less time.
Granted, there's a vast difference in scale - but then understanding the immensity of the Republic/Empire/New Republic and space in general has never been the series's strong point.

It doesn't help seeing that scale when the majority of the really big stuff seems to get started on one little backwater planet.

 

[Maxperson]

Remember some stories, sure. But in 20 years, the context of those stories could have significantly changed under propaganda pressure from the Empire.

These aren't fairy tales. They would be direct stories from people who saw the Jedi or knew the Jedi saved the next settlement over from a bantha attack. Those wouldn't be affected by imperial propaganda in the slightest. 20 years simply isn't enough time to alter the direct stories and direct knowledge by those who interacted with Jedi. Especially with long lived species in the galaxy. Even if there were only 10k Jedi running around like madmen saving and protecting the Republic, a species with a lifespan of 200 or 300 years would have MANY direct contacts who are still alive. And there would be several such species. Even for humans with their 100 year lifespan, 20 years wouldn't be enough to dilute the knowledge of Jedi by much.

 

[Maxperson]

But are you going to remember them as people who stood up against oppression? Or as weird, religious recluses who stabbed the Grand Army of the Republic and the great Chancellor in the back just as they were on the verge of triumphing in saving Republic space from trade-controlling alien separatists and the big banking consortium? Because that's the real question.

You're going to remember them as the guys who saved the next village, swept in and destroyed the raiders threatening your shipping lane, etc. The Empire, known for ruthlessness and evil, telling you that the Jedi were bad isn't going to change what you know they did.

 

[Maxperson]

And even within them, there are revisions that have become accepted canon, like Greedo shooting first, or Han's meeting with Jabba.

Canon? Yes. Accepted canon? Hardly. I don't know of anyone who has accepted that travesty.

 

[Zardnaar]

These aren't fairy tales. They would be direct stories from people who saw the Jedi or knew the Jedi saved the next settlement over from a bantha attack. Those wouldn't be affected by imperial propaganda in the slightest. 20 years simply isn't enough time to alter the direct stories and direct knowledge by those who interacted with Jedi. Especially with long lived species in the galaxy. Even if there were only 10k Jedi running around like madmen saving and protecting the Republic, a species with a lifespan of 200 or 300 years would have MANY direct contacts who are still alive. And there would be several such species. Even for humans with their 100 year lifespan, 20 years wouldn't be enough to dilute the knowledge of Jedi by much.

Except not much was actually known about the Jedi by the general public to begin with beyond myth and legends.

And what was known wasn't always positive or accurate (mind tricks, kidnapping kids etc).

It's roughly the equivalent of sitting down with a member of the Vatican guard except that happening is about 10000 tines more likely.

 

[Eric V]

Except not much was actually known about the Jedi by the general public to begin with beyond myth and legends.

And what was known wasn't always positive or accurate (mind tricks, kidnapping kids etc).

It's roughly the equivalent of sitting down with a member of the Vatican guard except that happening is about 10000 tines more likely.

I don't know...when I watch Clone Wars, everyone they encounter seem pretty familiar with the Jedi.

In the end, 20 years really just isn't long enough, especially with all the long-lived races out there.

 

[wicked cool]

if Grogu survives this i wonder if he will be still a toddler by the time the last jedi starts (would we say hes 2-3 in human years during Boba? starting to walk with basic communication. less than 5

 

[Maxperson]

Except not much was actually known about the Jedi by the general public to begin with beyond myth and legends.

Everyone and their mother was like, "Jedi mind tricks won't work on me. My mind is too strong." or "He's a weak minded fool." Even on Tatooine. Even the junkyard guy knew about mind tricks and who fell for them. Lightsabers were an instant recognition of Jedi, no matter where the Jedi went in the movies. Hell, they didn't even need to see the lightsabers on. If someone saw an unignited saber, he or she was like, "It's Jedi!" The movies contradict that statement pretty thoroughly.

And what was known wasn't always positive or accurate (mind tricks, kidnapping kids etc).

That's true. Mostly it was, though. They saved a LOT of people on a LOT of planets. That knowledge wouldn't even begin to vanish in a meager 20 years. Even if the evil, big bad Empire was spreading propaganda.

It's roughly the equivalent of sitting down with a member of the Vatican guard except that happening is about 10000 tines more likely.

The Vatican guard is constantly running all over the world helping save people from bad guys? Or are they sitting at the Vatican virtually all the time. Because those Jedi were stretched thin across the galaxy running around being protectors. That put them in contact with a hell of a lot more people than you think.

 

[Zaukrie]

I strongly disagree, clearly, with your position here. I'll restate that I believe the jedi would be widely known of for the reasons above.

(George Lucas agrees with you of course)

I agree with Morrus. When a Jedi saves a member of the Senate, that would be galactic news. There would be movies about the Jedi. Books. All kinds of media. There is no way people wouldn't know about them. And certainly no way they'd think the Force wasn't real just a couple decades after they were nearly wiped out. Look at the MCU.....people recognize them on the street. They are all over the news.

 

[ART!]

When I was a lad watching A New Hope, I had the distinct impression that the Jedi had not been prevalent for a long, long time - a lot more than just a generation. Enough time for them to have died out of living memory. I assumed Ben Kenobi was older than humans normally get, because he was "a wizard".