D&D 5E Vs Vecna battle simulations.

[Greg Benage]

Re: the cheese, is it mechanical gamesmanship? Yes. As a DM, can I work it into the narrative as a high-level monk juking or feinting his opponent to do something sneaky? Also yes. It's not bag-of-cats-level cheese, so I'd tip my cap and move on.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

Re: the cheese, is it mechanical gamesmanship? Yes. As a DM, can I work it into the narrative as a high-level monk juking or feinting his opponent to do something sneaky? Also yes. It's not bag-of-cats-level cheese, so I'd tip my cap and move on.

I'd probably let it go myself, if the players seemed fine with it, even if I roll my eyes a little on the inside.

 

[DND_Reborn]

shrug

Again, the minion issue... if Vecna had a zombie next to him and the monk attacked the zombie and Flurried Vecna... no cheese.

Also, as I wrote, it turns out it all wasn't necessary. Instead: grapple, Flurry, Flurry and you're done.

 

[Charlaquin]

Re: the cheese, is it mechanical gamesmanship? Yes.

I disagree. Again, being hidden doesn’t mean your enemy doesn’t know you’re behind the pillar (or whatever), it just means they can’t see you clearly or hear you, which is objectively true of someone who is covered by a pillar and passed their Dex (Stealth) check. While you’re unseen and unheard, attacks against you have disadvantage, and your attacks have advantage. If you stop being either unseen or unheard, such as when the enemy moves so the pillar is no longer in their way, you lose those benefits. There’s no cheese or mechanical gamesmanship going on, it’s perfectly consistent with the fiction.

 

[Greg Benage]

I disagree.

I was talking about attacking the pillar. I don't think the hiding is cheesy.

 

[Parmandur]

Attacking the pillar is pretty silly.

 

[Charlaquin]

I was talking about attacking the pillar. I don't think the hiding is cheesy.

Oh. My bad, I missed that part. I’ve missed… Most of the action of the combat, because I can’t see DNDReborn’s posts.

 

[DND_Reborn]

Attacking the pillar is pretty silly.

But HIGHLY effective!

 

[Swarmkeeper]

Attacking the pillar is pretty silly.

“You auto-hit the pillar. Now roll a DC 15 CON save. On a failure you break your hand and take damage equal to your martial arts die. On a success, your hand is fine but you take half damage. Oh, and broken hand = disadvantage on attacks with that hand.”

 

[MarkB]

“You auto-hit the pillar. Now roll a DC 15 CON save. On a failure you break your hand and take damage equal to your martial arts die. On a success, your hand is fine but you take half damage. Oh, and broken hand = disadvantage on attacks with that hand.”

Yeah, but this is a monk. They do that stuff all the time.