D&D and the rising pandemic

[Umbran]

I couldn't have made up a better showcase of relativism if I tried.

Right, but you are saying "relativism" as if it was a dirty word or something.

Risk management is not about absolutes. It is about making informed choices that depend on the outward situation, and one's own situation, needs, and capabilities. Risk management is not one-size-fits-all.

 

[Mannahnin]

The next one is coming.

Monkeypox is not a Public Health Emergency of International Concern, but perhaps it should be

Over the weekend, the WHO did not declare Monkeypox (MPX) as a Public Health Emergency of International Concern (PHEIC).

yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com

The US had a six-state outbreak of Monkeypox in 2003 stopped with 47 cases, I believe? We do have existing vaccines that work on this, and it's not nearly as transmissible as Covid. The new outbreak in the Northeast has around 70 cases so far, right?

Tracking and responding to the global monkeypox outbreak | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

Bill Hanage discusses the current state of the monkeypox outbreak and efforts to control disease spread.

www.hsph.harvard.edu

 

[niklinna]

The US had a six-state outbreak of Monkeypox in 2003 stopped with 47 cases, I believe? We do have existing vaccines that work on this, and it's not nearly as transmissible as Covid. The new outbreak in the Northeast has around 70 cases so far, right?

Yes we have vaccines, thank goodness. Getting them out, and getting people to take them, could be challenging, but we have them.

 

[J.Quondam]

TBH, if monkeypox became anywhere near as widespread as covid, I bet that even covid-denier types would franticallyleap to stop it, if only because it's such a visible disease with its blisters and all.
I suspect that "ickiness" factor would more effectively keep a pox at bay, socially-speaking, than something that's "just a flu."

 

[Zardnaar]

TBH, if monkeypox became anywhere near as widespread as covid, I bet that even covid-denier types would franticallyleap to stop it, if only because it's such a visible disease with its blisters and all.
I suspect that "ickiness" factor would more effectively keep a pox at bay, socially-speaking, than something that's "just a flu."

Yup.

15/18 at wife's office have caught it she's one of the three who hasn't.

Pretty much anyone with kids gets it via school and anyone who goes to large events.

We draw the line at restaurants and try for quiet times.

 

[Zardnaar]

Pretty much. We do not have the worldwide political or economic will to eradicate it, and never did.



Unfortunately, this is a view founded either in a misconception of how natural selection works, and/or survivor bias. Over the course of a handful of years, or a human lifetime or two, there is no such specific likelihood or tendency in nature.

Well it's more like we're still here and things like Spanish Flu and Black Death have mutated into less dangerous varients.

Covids following the same pattern current version is a lot less deadly than two years ago.

Covid-19 data visualisations: NZ in numbers

Track the very latest Covid-19 data in New Zealand, with new charts on the current trends from RNZ data journalist Farah Hancock.

www.rnz.co.nz

We've had just over 10% of the deaths relative to Colorado which is similar in size and population.

 

[GreyLord]

Yup.

15/18 at wife's office have caught it she's one of the three who hasn't.

Pretty much anyone with kids gets it via school and anyone who goes to large events.

We draw the line at restaurants and try for quiet times.

Are you saying 15 people at your wife's office have gotten Monkey Pox?

Is your area the center of an major outbreak starting up?

That's a pretty big infection factor for that...

Or are you referring to Covid-19 here?

 

[Umbran]

Well it's more like we're still here and things like Spanish Flu and Black Death have mutated into less dangerous varients.

So, bubonic plague didn't mutate into a less dangerous variant. We developed hygiene and antibiotics (it is a bacterial infection, not a virus, so antibiotics can work).

That leaves you with one example - Spanish Flu. One example does not establish a pattern.

Covids following the same pattern current version is a lot less deadly than two years ago.

So, we said that about Spanish Flu - "see, it became a less deadly variant!" But then, in 2009, we had H1N1 (aka Spanish Flu) again. In fact, H1N1 has risen and fallen in effectiveness several times over since 1918. Viruses do not stay put. I mean, the fact that we have covid-19, when coronaviruses have been around a long time, rather proves that.

 

[Zardnaar]

So, bubonic plague didn't mutate into a less dangerous variant. We developed hygiene and antibiotics (it is a bacterial infection, not a virus, so antibiotics can work).

That leaves you with one example - Spanish Flu. One example does not establish a pattern.




So, we said that about Spanish Flu - "see, it became a less deadly variant!" But then, in 2009, we had H1N1 (aka Spanish Flu) again. In fact, H1N1 has risen and fallen in effectiveness several times over since 1918. Viruses do not stay put. I mean, the fact that we have covid-19, when coronaviruses have been around a long time, rather proves that.

Last I heard the theory was the modern plague was different than Black Death. Recent discoveries also seem to indicate it came from a different area than previously thought.

Symptoms don't match up 100% and it's a lot less infectious.

I'm just making an observation and going on what scientists have been saying about coronaviruses here.

 

[Zardnaar]

Are you saying 15 people at your wife's office have gotten Monkey Pox?

Is your area the center of an major outbreak starting up?

That's a pretty big infection factor for that...

Or are you referring to Covid-19 here?

15/18 have had Covid. More outside the office as well idk the numbers.

My city did have a very high rate as it's a student city and once it broke out they still party etc.

Big reason we tend to avoid town it's full of students from the University.

I've got an event coming up I've booked for 12 6/12 have had it recently, everyone's triple vaxxed, wears masks and it's booked for a quiet night.

Haven't been to a concert, game, con or anything in a stadium since March 2020 and no D&D since August when Covid got out.