Dr Strange 2: In the Multiverse of Madness (Spoilers)

[Stalker0]

I guess we're ignoring the whole "Let's dissect Vision's body and see if we can create a new android out of him since he wasn't a real person"?

If any hero's dissection could create a new hero to save people, why wouldn't you do it? Ignore that vision was an android, harnessing power for protection is what governmental agencies like Sword are supposed to do.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

If any hero's dissection could create a new hero to save people, why wouldn't you do it? Ignore that vision was an android, harnessing power for protection is what governmental agencies like Sword are supposed to do.

Because you aren't evil?

 

[Stalker0]

Wanda intends to keep her sitcom life sequestered from the outside and, yes, that involves keeping people there against their will.

Sorry, there's no but after that. You don't get to hold people hostage and get called a hero. Even if she was doing it to save the world people would still call her out on the moral issue there, but at least taht would be understandable. But no, she's doing it so she can live in fantasy land....its a villainous act plain and simple.

 

[Stalker0]

That and the whole "Let's show the emotionally traumatized magic user what we're doing to her dead lover's body to see how she reacts" thing as well.

This one I will give you, its both heartless and pretty stupid.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Yeah, I have to say that I'm not taking it as a given 616 Wanda is actually dead for a while; that's exactly how you frame a not-really-dead scene in pulp tradition.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Sorry, there's no but after that. You don't get to hold people hostage and get called a hero. Even if she was doing it to save the world people would still call her out on the moral issue there, but at least taht would be understandable. But no, she's doing it so she can live in fantasy land....its a villainous act plain and simple.

I'd argue from the context and her reactions later that its a mentally ill act by someone who's powers pulled other people into their illness. Its not clear at all how much its really volitional in any normal sense, and her understanding later of what she's done seems to pretty strongly show that.

 

[Thomas Shey]

If any hero's dissection could create a new hero to save people, why wouldn't you do it? Ignore that vision was an android, harnessing power for protection is what governmental agencies like Sword are supposed to do.

Because its a gross intrusion in body autonomy without permission. You don't do it because its unethical, and if you do it anyway because you think its desirable, don't expect to be considered a good guy outside anyone who's outside the "hard men making hard decisions" ethic.

 

[Stalker0]

I'd argue from the context and her reactions later that its a mentally ill act by someone who's powers pulled other people into their illness. Its not clear at all how much its really volitional in any normal sense, and her understanding later of what she's done seems to pretty strongly show that.

You mean taking the super dark evil book and immediately diving into it? (and that's not even the movie, that's wandavision)

 

[Paul Farquhar]

You mean taking the super dark evil book and immediately diving into it?

Just like Doctor Strange does?

 

[Mallus]

You don't get to hold people hostage and get called a hero.

Doesn't Charles give his school to Magneto when goes off with his space girlfriend (into space)?

Doesn't the White Queen end up running it for a while?

Isn't this kinda par for the course with Marvel?