What do you think of Marvel post-Endgame?

[Blue]

my argument is they succeeded in a time of covid. theres other shows that have international casts that also suceeded.Sure they were delayed in some cases . maybe disney rushed it as their streaming service couldnt be delayed. Its still an excuse and a poor 1. cant be a disney thing as the mandalorian seemed to succeed. Now cumberbatch didnt stop acting during this time and fiege actually said that strange didnt appear due to them not wanting to take away from scarlet witch. Covid wasnt a factor

I gave examples of how covid affected the interconnection of the shows, plus how different countries had different rules. You come back with the Mandolorian which isn't interconnected nor filmed in different countries. If you refuse to even acknowledge how these shows differed from your examples, there isn't much point in trying to have a reasonable conversation about it.

 

[wicked cool]

I gave examples of how covid affected the interconnection of the shows, plus how different countries had different rules. You come back with the Mandolorian which isn't interconnected nor filmed in different countries. If you refuse to even acknowledge how these shows differed from your examples, there isn't much point in trying to have a reasonable conversation about it.

i acknowledge it might have been a factor but wandavision was not 1? you brought up the covid connection . black widow movie was delayed . The movie overall wasnt that good. As far as i know i didnt have the problems that say a justice league had where you had problems on set /a superman with a moustache etc .Its not horrible but its not a phase 1 best movie. Theoretically these movies should bas good as the second part of phase 1. Cap 1/iron man 1/2 are initial releases and i would conceded not as good as later movies . Good movies but not great

New York Times -Keven fiege quoted "nothing about mcu signigantly affected by coranuvirus (january 8/2021)

im not some immovable object that cant be convinced

Phase 2 made a lot of money but most of the best of the phase 1 movies (my opinion) are much better than the best of phase 2 . i would argue that the latest spiderman movie was really really good

checks of boxes for me-good story, good action, good acting . at times pulled on the heartstrings etc

back to your restaurant analogy-the person down the street survived . Due to luck/solid ownership and maybe their chicken parm was a little bit better than the other

 

[Rabulias]

If there is some overall metaplot to build up like before I sure would like to see Kang before, I don't know, the decade is out.

Spoiler: RE: Kang

Supposedly he makes his MCU film debut February 17 2023 in Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania.

 

[JiffyPopTart]

I haven't seen 1 of these movies or any of the TV shows. It's much more of a function of the creation of Disney+ (which I don't have access to) making it impossible for me to see the movies after a short delay than it is my lack of interest.

 

[Hex08]

What do I think of Marvel post-Endgame?

...I don't think of Marvel. The first (and only) post-Endgame thing I've seen was Spider Man: We Like Titles With Home In It, but that's because I was on a 12 hour plane flight and why not?

Spider-Man: Home Alone?

 

[Rabulias]

But which other Marvel throwaway villian was done well?

If they were done well, they would not be throwaway villains, no?

Some of Marvel's villains have been lackluster, but Zemo and Wenwu stand out to me as really great.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Spider-Man: Home Alone?

….. I would totally watch that.

 

[Thomas Shey]

If they were done well, they would not be throwaway villains, no?

Some of Marvel's villains have been lackluster, but Zemo and Wenwu stand out to me as really great.

Zemo suffered in the movie because he's relentlessly grim and doesn't interact with any of the heroes until the very end, though Bruhl does very well with the few interactions we get; but you get to see a more nuanced version of him in Falcon and the Winter Soldier, where he's had several years, the Blip, and his time in prison to reassess his purposes and get over his tragedy a bit.

 

[Mezuka]

As a reminder here’s the list:

1. Black Widow
2. Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
3. Spider-Man: Far From Home
4. Eternals
5. Spider-Man: No Way Home
6. Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness

I liked Black Widow's disfunction family. Great banter. But the last battle on the floating station didn't make any sense. So instead of a strong 8 it's a 7. I've seen it again on cable tv for free and enjoyed it.

The others are at best 6s. Eternals is a weak 4.

The only MCU Spider-man movie I've rewatched is Homecoming, a solid 8. The other two just don't grab me. I prefer Spider-man when he interacts with the other supers as part of a team.

Multiverse was a big disappointment. 5 on 10.

So overall they are much weaker and they don't build up any overarching plot, so far.

 

[Hex08]

and they don't build up any overarching plot, so far.

This is something I am generally ok with. Phase 1 didn't really start setting up the Thanos storyline until the last movie of the phase, Avengers, and we didn't even see Thanos until the very end. Between Loki, Spider-Man & Doctor Strange the groundwork for Kang and some big multiversal event is being set up and that seems quicker than phase 1.

The overarching plot is something I wish Marvel would stay away from for a bit. Eventually the movies are going to become as convoluted as the comics.