D&D 5E 5e isn't a Golden Age of D&D Lorewise, it's Silver at best.

[Hussar]

That wasn't my experience. As someone critical of 5e, I was pretty shocked at how negative the response to SCAG was. Like I said, the vast majority of stuff people said about 5e back then was gushing effusive praise, so having anything even lukewarm was a noticeable drop...and SCAG got a lot more than mere lukewarm responses. It had outright criticism. Sure, it wasn't a pervasive "everyone hates it," but in the context of a time where it felt like everyone thought WotC could do no wrong, it stuck out.

Seriously?

All we saw back then were people taking large dumps all over Hoard of the Dragon Queen. "Terrible adventure!!" "Total Railroad!" "When is WotC going to give us something good!"

Methinks you were reading a different forum than I was.

 

[EzekielRaiden]

Seriously?

All we saw back then were people taking large dumps all over Hoard of the Dragon Queen. "Terrible adventure!!" "Total Railroad!" "When is WotC going to give us something good!"

Methinks you were reading a different forum than I was.

I believe I was, yes. Two different forums, actually.

 

[Hussar]

I don't know about "golden age" of lore or anything like that. I'm not really a lore or setting guy.

But, I do know that in my current Candlekeep Mysteries game, I've really made an effort to sort of dig down into the lore surrounding the adventures and the locations and whatnot. Really tried to bring it to life.

Now, if this were 2005, or 1995, if I wanted to know the general outline of, say, Beregost, a town on the Sword Coast, where would I find that? How would I even begin to find that information?

Currently, I Google Beregost, and it gives me the FR wiki site: Beregost and I have all the information I could ever want about Beregost at my fingertips, along with a complete bibliography and linked articles to various other setting elements.

How is that not the golden age for setting lore?

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I guessing you're not a big fan of the Silmarillion either.

It was a slog.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

On that we disagee to an extreme.

I'm sure my dad would too, but I think people who are too old to be comfortable looking things up on the internet fall outside the target demographic.

 

[Hussar]

It was a slog.

Y'know, the Simarillion is one of the few fantasy books I've never, ever managed to get through. I've tried multiple times and I just can't. It's why this new Amazon series just does not interest me at all. Basing a whole series on what is, in my mind anyway, the most mind bogglingly boring book of all time is just not something I want to see.

Hopefully enough other people like it though. The better it does, the better the chances are that I'll actually get to see something I do want to see.

Then again, I find most of the door stopper fantasy stuff just a huge turn off. A Song of Fire and Ice was a complete slog. While I loved Tad William's Dragonbone chair series, all his later stuff just leaves me cold. If you can't tell your story in under 300 pages, I'm just not interested anymore. And, frankly, preferably under 100 pages to be honest.

 

[SakanaSensei]

Y'know, the Simarillion is one of the few fantasy books I've never, ever managed to get through. I've tried multiple times and I just can't. It's why this new Amazon series just does not interest me at all. Basing a whole series on what is, in my mind anyway, the most mind bogglingly boring book of all time is just not something I want to see.

Hopefully enough other people like it though. The better it does, the better the chances are that I'll actually get to see something I do want to see.

Then again, I find most of the door stopper fantasy stuff just a huge turn off. A Song of Fire and Ice was a complete slog. While I loved Tad William's Dragonbone chair series, all his later stuff just leaves me cold. If you can't tell your story in under 300 pages, I'm just not interested anymore. And, frankly, preferably under 100 pages to be honest.

I want to say I agree with you and that most of my favorite books can be done within 300 pages, but I started reading Brandon Sanderson this year and there's just something really satisfying about his work. I think my favorite of his I've read so far was on the shorter end (Warbreaker), but I'm now 800 pages deep into the 1200 page Way of Kings and it's just fantastic.

100% agree on the Silmarillion, though. One of those things that I like in concept but just can never find the energy to actually read.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Y'know, the Simarillion is one of the few fantasy books I've never, ever managed to get through. I've tried multiple times and I just can't.

I made it! I was a lot younger back then though.

It's why this new Amazon series just does not interest me at all. Basing a whole series on what is, in my mind anyway, the most mind bogglingly boring book of all time is just not something I want to see.

I'm one of those who is a lot happier that it is an original take, just borrowing a few ideas, rather than a faithful adaptation.

Hopefully enough other people like it though.

The trailer seems to appeal to my partner, who hasn't read LotR, never mind the Silmarillion!

Have to say, I much prefer shorter novels these days. I'm done with fantasy doorstoppers!

 

[UngainlyTitan]

If you don't treat fictional history seriously, it really is meaningless.

Fictional history is meaningless. At least on its own, it only has meaning in the context of a story, and then only in how it affects the reader.

 

[dave2008]

Absolutely YMMV. I hate the 5e beholder lore.

Well that is to passionate for me. I hate very few things and definitely not anything to do with a game!

I will admit though I don't really have any attachment to a lot of traditional lore of D&D. It just never engaged or inspired me much.