D&D 5E 5e isn't a Golden Age of D&D Lorewise, it's Silver at best.

[MNblockhead]

Are you kidding? I had to look up to see whether Chult was in the Forgotten Realms or Greyhawk because I didn't remember off hand. To me, Greyhawk and the Forgotten Realms are pretty much interchangeable because they're both just so generic and I don't really have strong feelings about the lore in either.

[Gets out the popcorn]

 

[Micah Sweet]

Well, or afford $70 box sets, or even $35 books at Target.

I actually quite like the three small book format, and granted three 64 page books that would be worth $25-30 at market rates and a $10-15 DM screen, the deal is fiscally reasonable. The content and art seems on point. I would really like to see them push the online free content hard, because it is good marketing and increases the value of getting their products.

I would have preferred more content, no matter the format. No need for a DM screen either.

 

[Shardstone]

Well, or afford $70 box sets, or even $35 books at Target.

I actually quite like the three small book format, and granted three 64 page books that would be worth $25-30 at market rates and a $10-15 DM screen, the deal is fiscally reasonable. The content and art seems on point. I would really like to see them push the online free content hard, because it is good marketing and increases the value of getting their products.

A 64 page hardback to me for 30 is a hard, hard sale for anything that isn't absolute luxury with actual masterclass 11/10 artists that pushes the boundary of its medium. Like, 64 pages is not a lot. That is a very thin hardback.

 

[MNblockhead]

Which demonstrates ignorance. They aren’t interchangeable at all. Greyhawk definitely has its own flavor as does FR and your assumption is based on a lack of knowledge (the definition of the word).

While FR is a kitchen sink setting, one could easily think it’s a fantasy Europe, based on looks alone, it’s more Canada and that’s very hard to put a finger on why. It doesn’t really have a France or Germany or Norway etc. you could make an argument for an England with Cormyr and Moonshae is definitely an Ireland and Cormyr has those Arthur Celtic influences they’re so far apart that they have distinctive cultures that fall apart but the whole thing is blasted apart as you look at the broad expanse of the continent of the main part of the Forgotten Realms. In its fringes to the south and south east you get into the more Earth like cultures but the rest, particularly the original OGB parts of the Realms, are what the concept of generic fantasy would grow from, not because it was generic but because FR would dominate fantasy fiction after its release. It’s not even Tolkienesque. That is Dragonlance.

Greyhawk on the other hand is very different. It’s as generic as the DM wants to make it or your imagination makes it. It has some very ripe and imaginative cultures but very humanocentric so the elf, dwarf, etc cultures are barely surface scratched. The setting is very sword & sorcery but with chivalric and heraldic traditions proudly on display. The Great Kingdom is very much a Holy Roman Empire divorced from the Church kind of vibe because that is over in Veluna I think. The city of Greyhawk is very Lankhmar and in general it’s a very Wild West, Conan the Barbarian, Fafrhd and the Grey Mouser kind of setting. They would feel very at home there. It’s not Tolkienesque. It could be argued that it is Eastern European and bits of France and Italy meet Fritz Lieber. Basically… The Witcher if you accelerate GH to the Wars era.

[Washes the popcorn down with coke]

 

[Parmandur]

I would have preferred more content, no matter the format. No need for a DM screen either.

The DM screen is content, in this case.

 

[Parmandur]

A 64 page hardback to me for 30 is a hard, hard sale for anything that isn't absolute luxury with actual masterclass 11/10 artists that pushes the boundary of its medium. Like, 64 pages is not a lot. That is a very thin hardback.

Just going off of market rates: if you go to your FLGS and look st a 64 page hardcover for any game, that is what you will find.

 

[MNblockhead]

5: Satanic Panic Party. It’s back baby and it’s angry.

Really?

Links please.

 

[Micah Sweet]

The DM screen is content, in this case.

Let me clarify. New content, rather. Something that isn't a reprint from elsewhere in the product.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Just going off of market rates: if you go to your FLGS and look st a 64 page hardcover for any game, that is what you will find.

So the market rate for a 64-page rpg hardcover is $70?

 

[Parmandur]

Let me clarify. New content, rather. Something that isn't a reprint from elsewhere in the product.

The DM screen includes Spelljamming specific material.