D&D 5E 5e isn't a Golden Age of D&D Lorewise, it's Silver at best.

[Parmandur]

No.

You need to find a 192 page book for $49.99.

You don't get to combine books that were sold separately - that's dishonesty, like I was saying (I do agree WotC adventures are usually hilariously overpriced though). I've already shown WotC sold 320 to 352 page books for $49.99 back then.

In 2014, I paid $60 for 192 pages of material, in 2022 I paid $63 for 192 pages of material. Color me unphased.

 

[GreyLord]

I don't have one that is $30, but I think Paizo's Starfinder line runs on 64 page adventures or something similar. They run around $23 each, but they haven't raised prices in years so, it's not really keeping with inflation either.

 

[Micah Sweet]

They're raising prices because they think they're popular enough to get away with it, and they cite inflation if anyone complains. They're probably right, which just justifies the whole affair.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

In 2014, I paid $60 for 192 pages of material, in 2022 I paid $63 for 192 pages of material. Color me unphased.

In 2014, I paid $49.99 for 352 pages of material by that logic.

Dishonestly combining overpriced adventures to try to pretend rulebooks and setting books always cost this much is not helpful to you or this discussion.

 

[delericho]

No.

You need to find a 192 page book for $49.99.

Xanathar's Guide was 192 pages for $50. It wasn't 2014 though (2017).

You won't find a WotC book from 2014 at 192 pages for $50, for the simple reason that they didn't publish many books that year. Checking my shelves, Xanathar's is the only book I have at that page count (though I don't have them all). I think SCAG was $40 for 160 pages in 2015 - that's as close as I can find.

 

[Parmandur]

They're raising prices because they think they're popular enough to get away with it, and they cite inflation if anyone complains. They're probably right, which just justifies the whole affair.

Yes, it's how the world works.

 

[Parmandur]

In 2014, I paid $49.99 for 352 pages of material by that logic.

Dishonestly combining overpriced adventures to try to pretend rulebooks and setting books always cost this much is not helpful to you or this discussion.

Comparing Tyranny of Dragons to Spelljammer is like to like, though, comparing Spelljammer to the PHB is not.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Xanathar's Guide was 192 pages for $50. It wasn't 2014 though (2017).

You won't find a WotC book from 2014 at 192 pages for $50, for the simple reason that they didn't publish many books that year. Checking my shelves, Xanathar's is the only book I have at that page count (though I don't have them all). I think SCAG was $40 for 160 pages in 2015 - that's as close as I can find.

Thanks, that's helpful, and reveals that WotC has been kind of pricing with "what it can get away with" rather than "what it costs" for a long time.

Yes, it's how the world works.

There's a big difference between gradually jacking up prices for products of the same or equal amount of material, and massively jacking up prices whilst massively decreasing the amount of material.

$70 for 320 pages. It's a rip-off, but it won't be in 2-3 years. Fine.

$70 for 192 pages. Yeah I don't think so mate.

 

[delericho]

No, $30. So three of them would go for $90. Plus a DM screen that would normally be ~$15.

Not saying anyone should be happy about the format or pricing...but it isn't gouging. Indeed, what has happened is that WotC held their book prices down for several years, and that has to be adjusted sooner or latter.

Agreed on all points. Unfortunately, it does really sting having the price increase come at the same time as the amount of material is reduced - IMO, they would have done better to introduce one at a time.

But then, I'm going to be skipping this new Spelljammer for other reasons, so I guess it doesn't bother me too much.

 

[Parmandur]

I don't have one that is $30, but I think Paizo's Starfinder line runs on 64 page adventures or something similar. They run around $23 each, but they haven't raised prices in years so, it's not really keeping with inflation either.

That may be what I was comparing with previously, along with thin comic trades.