D&D 5E 5e isn't a Golden Age of D&D Lorewise, it's Silver at best.

[Parmandur]

Paying a livable wage. Not exploiting globalization. Environmental considerations. Those would fall within ethical concerns.

Worrying about shareholder profits? Nah.

Those are, indeed, ethical considerations, which is where Hasbro and WotC are, honest to God, very admirable and even won awards for their work. Every D&D book and Magic card in the U. S. is printed here, and theybhave major environmental sustainability initiatives (particularly with Magic).

However, if you give me money because I told you I had a plan that would make you money, I do owe you something from that in justice, I canjust take your unvestment and buy a welk of Taco Bell for myself.

 

[Parmandur]

Oh, rad! I did a BA at a small Catholic college in America, and an MA at KU Leuven in Belgium. More phenomenology than ancient, but I'm very much a product of Catholic education. Like can often apprehend like, I suppose.

Yeah, the Friars are old school Thomists, with an Analytical edge, but somehow I came out it a Phenomenologically minded Platonist (the late 13th century Biahop of Paris condemnations of St. Thomas actually made some good points not to be easily dismissed, IMO), so life is funny.

 

[Scribe]

Those are, indeed, ethical considerations, which is where Hasbro and WotC are, honest to God, very admirable and even won awards for their work. Every D&D book and Magic card in the U. S. is printed here, and theybhave major environmental sustainability initiatives (particularly with Magic).

However, if you give me money because I told you I had a plan that would make you money, I do owe you something from that in justice, I canjust take your unvestment and buy a welk of Taco Bell for myself.

I'd call that more a legal obligation, but I don't know that I'm going to be able to articulate why I see it as not an ethical concern.

 

[Parmandur]

I'd call that more a legal obligation, but I don't know that I'm going to be able to articulate why I see it as not an ethical concern.

Probably because it's been abused to Kingdom Come by nefarious actors in our society for decades to make money quick at the expense of society?

That doesn't mean that taking shareholder needs into account to treat them justly isn't an ethical concern.

 

[Scribe]

Probably because it's been abused to Kingdom Come by nefarious actors in our society for decades to make money quick at the expense of society?

That doesn't mean that taking shareholder needs into account to treat them justly isn't an ethical concern.

Probably.

The market to me is simply unethical, a businesses practices may or may not be ethical, but a system which exists to extract ever greater profit and growth from the planet, and those things which live on it, is not ethical.

It's a parasite.

 

[Azzy]

What ethical considerations are in play other than treating workers well and respecting shareholder value, specifically?

Yeah, putting my views on capitalism would go against forum rules, so I'll leave it to your imagination.

 

[Parmandur]

Am American, its pretty split around here lol

Man, as an American living in "Lefty California" I've been called a Socialist for advocating Center-Right European political positions (Angela Merkel, famed international Communist, ammirite?), Americans mostly aren't ready to even hear actual Socialist ideas.

 

[Parmandur]

Yeah, putting my views on capitalism would go against forum rules, so I'll leave it to your imagination.

I'm not asking for a screed, just on a philosophical level, what principles impact the ethics of pricing this product? No need to bring politics or religion into it.

 

[Parmandur]

Probably.

The market to me is simply unethical, a businesses practices may or may not be ethical, but a system which exists to extract ever greater profit and growth from the planet, and those things which live on it, is not ethical.

It's a parasite.

There is an argument for that, and I am not a market absolutist...but given the existence a money economy where goods and services are traded in this network, it is possible to move ethically. And obligations of justice bind employees of a company held by shareholders given that system.

 

[Scribe]

There is an argument for that, and I am not a market absolutist...but given the existence a money economy where goods and services are traded in this network, it is possible to move ethically. And obligations of justice bind employees of a company held by shareholders given that system.

I think we agree.

Move ethically is business practice, even investment.

Obligations, are legal binding to deliver following investment.

I just won't put profit for shareholders into an "ethical concern" bucket, but a legal one.