D&D 5E 5e isn't a Golden Age of D&D Lorewise, it's Silver at best.

[JiffyPopTart]

I'm not asking for a screed, just on a philosophical level, what principles impact the ethics of pricing this product? No need to bring politics or religion into it.

To answer that you would have to follow all the extra revenue that came in the door and see where it ended up.

If in the pockets of suppliers....an unavoidable increase to be sure. If in payroll to keep up with inflation, kudos for doing the bare minimum. If in the pockets of the employees to both cover inflation and give a raise, very admirable. If in the pockets of shareholders or executives as bigger dividends or bonuses than normal....shrug.

This has 0 to do with lore, however, so can we drop the politic adjacent fork?

 

[Micah Sweet]

To answer that you would have to follow all the extra revenue that came in the door and see where it ended up.

If in the pockets of suppliers....an unavoidable increase to be sure. If in payroll to keep up with inflation, kudos for doing the bare minimum. If in the pockets of the employees to both cover inflation and give a raise, very admirable. If in the pockets of shareholders or executives as bigger dividends or bonuses than normal....shrug.

This has 0 to do with lore, however, so can we drop the politic adjacent fork?

Well, the overall attitude seems to be pretty dismissive of lore around here (with some exceptions), so what else can we talk about?

 

[JiffyPopTart]

Well, the overall attitude seems to be pretty dismissive of lore around here (with some exceptions), so what else can we talk about?

Serpent Kingdoms was the best hyper focused FR 3e supplement. This opinion brought to you by the letter "My favorite bad guys are yuan-ti".

 

[Paul Farquhar]

People are allowed to complain.

Sure they are. And they will. You can't please all the people all the time.

But when people say "why you no complain you WotC shill?" it needs to be addressed.

 

[Parmandur]

Well, the overall attitude seems to be pretty dismissive of lore around here (with some exceptions), so what else can we talk about?

I like lore, and a lot, actually. But it's like Lego bricks, not Holy Writ: toys that can be rearranged or replaced for the needs of the game.

And 5E is certainly a "Golden Age" of creating access to gameable pieces.of material.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Wow, that was certainly a turn in the thread, to say the least. What do the ethics of capitalism have to do with "the Golden Age of Lore" again?

Yeah, yeah. I hate that Spelljammer costs so much for so few pages as much as the next guy. If I had my way, every setting book would be as long and of as high quality as the Eberron and Wildemount books. But I'm still buying the books because Spelljammer is my favorite setting.

Well, back to the "complaining about 5e's lore" topic of this thread. Maybe it's just because I've never played any previous editions, but I think the lore from 5e's recent releases is of high quality. Notably the Priests of Osybus and Nechricors from Ravenloft, the entirety of Fizban's Treasury of Dragons, the lore expansions to Tasha from TCoE and Witchlight, and the Archaics/Oracles from Strixhaven (and I say this as someone that doesn't like the Strixhaven book) as examples from recent releases.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Hell it doesn't even have a detailed proper map of post Sundering Faerun.

. . . Do maps count as "lore"?

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Well, I suppose they used to be.

. . . They didn't errata the xenophobia out from Beholders in the Monster Manual, and the post-errata version of Volo's Guide to Monsters still mentions their xenophobia. So, not only did they used to be xenophobic, but they continue to be still.

 

[Parmandur]

Wow, that was certainly a turn in the thread, to say the least. What do the ethics of capitalism have to do with "the Golden Age of Lore" again?

Yeah, yeah. I hate that Spelljammer costs so much for so few pages as much as the next guy. If I had my way, every setting book would be as long and of as high quality as the Eberron and Wildemount books. But I'm still buying the books because Spelljammer is my favorite setting.

Well, back to the "complaining about 5e's lore" topic of this thread. Maybe it's just because I've never played any previous editions, but I think the lore from 5e's recent releases is of high quality. Notably the Priests of Osybus and Nechricors from Ravenloft, the entirety of Fizban's Treasury of Dragons, the lore expansions to Tasha from TCoE and Witchlight, and the Archaics/Oracles from Strixhaven (and I say this as someone that doesn't like the Strixhaven book) as examples from recent releases.

The biggest difference is quantity, not quality: but WotC can't compete with the Internet for quantity, they tried in 3E and it was notna success. TSR pumped out quantity in a time when, get this, there was no Internet. Different world.

 

[Parmandur]

. . . Do maps count as "lore"?

Sure, they do! One of the best parts of any campaign Setting product, even one that is being cut up for pieces and parts.