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I think we agree.

Move ethically is business practice, even investment.

Obligations, are legal binding to deliver following investment.

I just won't put profit for shareholders into an "ethical concern" bucket, but a legal one.
Would you say that it’s possible for a corporation to act in an ethical manner, distinct from the actions of the people who make up a company?

edit: I should say: as much as I enjoy a good discussion on normative ethics, we are awfully far afield of the question of 'do we have enough lore or not'.
 
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I just won't put profit for shareholders into an "ethical concern" bucket, but a legal one.
Worth noting that from a legal perspective unless a company is acting both truly perversely and failing to pay out to shareholders it rarely is a legal issue (i.e. if the company leadership decides to burn the company to the ground and funnel the profits to shareholders it's very unlikely they'll get sued - if they do the same and funnel the profits solely to management, they definitely will). There's a common myth that companies are required, legally, to "maximize shareholder profits" or the like, and indeed this myth is actively and intentionally spread by a lot of people who know better (including people at WSJ for god's sake! It's literally their job to know better! But WSJ is a ghastly rag these days, and has been for a couple of decades). There are companies who have that in their charter, but most have vastly more mild and flexible verbiage, if anything.

What it actually tends to be if a company is publicly traded is a practical issue.

Often, behaving ethically towards shareholders will cause people to sell your shares, because many and in some cases most shareholders are interested solely in short-term profits and absolutely nothing else. Which if you're publicly-traded, gives you a huge problem.

I question whether it is possible for a publicly-traded company to act in a truly ethical way in the longer-term, simply because sooner or later, the ethical approach and the need to convince flighty, short-termist shareholders/investors to not take their money away will conflict too much. We've seen this countless times with companies that are, by all accounts, on-book and real-terms successful/profitable, but that make a decision that lessens short-term shareholder gains, and then boom they plunge by 25%, 40%, even 80% or more. These aren't bad companies, but looking at long-term success can be hugely costly.
 
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I think we agree.

Move ethically is business practice, even investment.

Obligations, are legal binding to deliver following investment.

I just won't put profit for shareholders into an "ethical concern" bucket, but a legal one.
The main reason that I would say it transcends legality into ethics, is the nature of human relationships that being in a corporation formalizes.
 

Often, behaving ethically towards shareholders will cause people to sell your shares, because many and in some cases most shareholders are interested solely in short-term profits and absolutely nothing else. Which if you're publicly-traded, gives you a huge problem.
Do you mean to tell me that a commercial organization formed for the explicit purpose of generating profit will prioritize its revenue stream at the expense of other concerns? How am I supposed to reconcile with this dreadful revelation?
 

Could we swing the conversation back to @teitan 's comment about the satanic panic coming back? Because "Dark Dungeons" is the only lore I care about.

Seriously though, is this the case? I have neither read nor heard about any moral-panic fuss being made about D&D.
It’s starting yes. QAnon is regurgitated Satanic Panic but the headlines have started. Fantasy Role-Playing Is Hurting America
 

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Well, that article is talking about something else entirely, of a nature that we can't talk about here. Actually the opposite of the Satanic Panic, pitting down the 80's version and calling the QAnon leaders conspiracy nuts.
Oh for sure but it comes in cycles and while it won’t hit us hard remember when it was Harry Potter? Something is coming next. Not sure what but an Ill Wind Bloweth.
 

As a business, it make sense for wotc to focus on growing the core game by continually bringing new players in. The sales numbers Ben Riggs has released seem to indicate that a lot of people bought into the core of the game (whether basic or advanced) for a few years in the early 80s then the game stopped brining in as many new players. Further, very very few people bought the setting books (much less bought into the extensive line of supplements that each setting had!).
 

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