D&D 5E Toxicity in the Fandom

[Tallifer]

People should not use fantasy/sci-fi roleplaying to impose on others their Weltanschauung whether alt-right or woke. I can understand that everyone's social and gaming circle has its particular atmosphere, but leave it there. I say no to organizing blacklists and boycotts. Buy what you like; play with who is fun for you.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

People should not use fantasy/sci-fi roleplaying to impose on others their Weltanschauung whether alt-right or woke. I can understand that everyone's social and gaming circle has its particular atmosphere, but leave it there. I say no to organizing blacklists and boycotts. Buy what you like; play with who is fun for you.

No.

I reject any kind of equivalence between crypto-Nazis and those who try to make games more inclusive.

And as far as the subject of this thread goes, I don't see a lot of toxicity in the fanbase in question coming from those making it more inclusive. I don't think that the various actors in Star Wars were being harassed by people that were too "woke."

 

[dragoner]

Woke, as explained to me by a black woman is just "aware of racial prejudice". Sort of calls out those against.

 

[J.Quondam]

This thread is awesome: Alternating posts about the proper usage of the "C-word" with discussion about skill challenges.

It is a great challenge to use the C-word skillfully.

 

[Burnside]

It is a great challenge to use the C-word skillfully.

The British get it as a free proficiency, I believe.

 

[J.Quondam]

How does one apologize for unforgivable things? How does one pay debts that can never be repaid?

One can certainly apologize for something unforgivable, and even be completely sincere. Just don't expect to be forgiven; that's not up to the one who caused the harm.
IMO, the point of a (genuine) apology is not to be forgiven, but simply to apologize: to acknowledge the wrong done, to voice contrition, to exhibit some personal growth.

 

[John R Davis]

I think it's a more southern ( London) thing in the UK, is the dropping of the C-bomb.

Certainly looked at with disapproval in the middle bit.

And is it cnt in the USA as they like to drop a u here and there

I really like skill challenge use in 5e

 

[Eltab]

How does one apologize for unforgivable things? How does one pay debts that can never be repaid?

Jean Valjean, in Les Miserables, is in a similar situation: he wants to repent from his wrongdoing. The problem is the unyielding Law that brands him forever a thief. The greater part of the musical is one possible path to redemption.

 

[Eltab]

I reject any kind of equivalence between crypto-Nazis and those who try to make games more inclusive.

Being a jerk while wrapping yourself in one Cause or another, is still being a jerk. No Cause is immune to being used as cover by jerks.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Yes and that's certainly a reaction you can have. The GM needs to really take the abilities of their group into account when deciding to use a skill challenge. Most of the problems (but not all) I've had with skill challenges came from published adventures where the designer forgot that maybe the Fighter has nothing to offer but Athletics or Intimidation.

Its why both 4e and PF2e have an advantage here (the latter even more than the former); you're far less likely to have a character who has nothing to contribute, because of how skills are assigned.