Garthanos
Arcadian Knight
CR comes to mind as an unforced error.
D&D 5E What (if anything) do you find "wrong" with 5E?
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Garthanos
Arcadian Knight
I can see Fighter and Rogue in 5e already could merge fairly easily we have dex fighters already... is that knifist a rogue or a fighter did he dash because a maneuver enabled extra movement or because he simply can...
James Gasik
We don't talk about Pun-Pun
Having tried making my own systems and totally failing to figure out what an "appropriate challenge" for characters of a given level should be, I'm somewhat forgiving about CR these days.
Though I still feel 4e handled this better.
Though I still feel 4e handled this better.
Garthanos
Arcadian Knight
5e has 4e math divide by two with subtle variations under the hood... where they diverged we got a worse solution and this is one location.
glass
(he, him)
It really doesn't. Dividing half-level by two (or anything else) cannot get you to level*0.
GMforPowergamers
Legend
someone said a few weeks ago if you divide the half level by something and add 1... so like at level 20 it is half level 10 divide by two is 5 then +1 is 6... I didn't buy it becuse so many non prof things (including AC) don't scale.
just for fun level 4 half level is 2 divide by two is 1 +1 is 2... so maybe it works starting at level 4
But you miss my main criticism.
5e focused on newbies as newbies not on what the newbies liked.
5e focused on making easier to learn. 5e didn't focus on doing what people they taught to play liked.
That's why when fans wanted to play smart orcs, goblin paladins, elf anime swordsmen, and human poke-masters... the system buckled. And a dozens od "Things I don't like about 5e " YouTube videos were published.
James Gasik
We don't talk about Pun-Pun
I just meant the idea that enemies have levels in 4e, which gives them default numbers for what a monster of that level is expected to have. I know there was a calculation error, but the idea that I can easily have a Goblin be level 1, 7, or 15, as the game requires was incredible for me.
Granted, you had to eyeball higher level critters if you wanted to scale them down, due to sometimes having pretty wacky abilities, but it was still way easier for me to set up encounters.
Granted, you had to eyeball higher level critters if you wanted to scale them down, due to sometimes having pretty wacky abilities, but it was still way easier for me to set up encounters.
I disagree with this.
First ... really, youtube videos that have "Things I don't like about X" as evidence that X unpopular? What, is there a picture of the youtuber's face too? C'mon ... that's just for the clicks, man.
Second- they are very focused on what newbies like. That's why it has branched out the way it has. But just because it doesn't support every thing that you like doesn't mean that it doesn't, broadly, support what newbies like. Saying that "D&D doesn't let me exactly play this archetype from the media" is a trope as old as "Hey, how can I play Gandalf when Magic Users can't wield swords?"
Again- I know that you prefer the superheroic approach, which is great! But people (many people) seem to truly enjoy what D&D is serving up. Enough that they can make youtube videos about it ... oh, and videos reacting to how bad other people's youtube videos are.
At no point did I say that 5e is unpopular.
What I said is that 5e was designed to be easy for new players to learn.
What I also said is 5e didn't do any of the fantasy tropes that new players like well at all.
So once the newbie gets experience, they find that 5e doesn't support much of what they see in fantasy.
I mean 5th edition hasn't even produced a new setting yet that isn't a conversion from MTG yet.
