D&D (2024) First playtest thread! One D&D Character Origins.

[Justice and Rule]

I am going back and forth on this one

It's weird, but it does open up a lot of design space. You can make higher-hitting regular attacks without having to worry about what happens when someone criticals you. Similarly you can make more wild powers that require attack rolls and not have to worry about a random "20" completely smoking a character in an unintended way.

Also it can cut down on players saying "You didn't crit me! Show me the roll!"

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Yes? That’s not accidental. If a PC crits a goblin and slays it outright is that an accident?

no it isn't an accident in game but out of game the DM has 0 intent to kill a character... the monster MEANT to kill the character.

 

[dave2008]

I will admit that I think it's stupid that Monsters won't be able to do Critical Hits anymore.

I will still use them because the function differently in our game, but it is not stupid. In reality crits on a 20 are bit silly. I prefer the PF2 approach to crits as it is related to skill not luck (though a bit less exciting at the table).

 

[tetrasodium]

The crit changes sound like a positive thing for magic casters if they come with associated changes to magic no longer expecting "what if they crit when casting this spell" as if that was the norm. Thinking of spells & nonspells as different discrete things rather than one as a subset of the other but only in a few ways is a mess

 

[dave2008]

Playtest PDF is live now. 21 pages

 

[OB1]

It seems from the two videos I have watched today that the primary thrust for backwards compatibility is to allow you to run all of the 2014-2023 adventures with the 2024 rule updates. They are less concerned if a '14 class is 100% balanced with a '24 class, etc.

Yep, that's how it appears. Again, I'm surprised that they are shifting that much. Wonder how compatible 2024+ adventures will be with the 2014 OS?

Note I'm not saying this is a good/bad thing at this point, just surprised!

 

[Weiley31]

So far: I like to think of Ardlings as the 5E version of Archons, like the Hound, Bear, Owl and other celestial beast types.

 

[overgeeked]

Accidentally Crit leading to a character death? What is an accidental Crit? And are your players aware that getting into monster fights can lead to death?

Right?

 

[TwoSix]

No more half-elves and half-orcs. Feels weird.

 

[tetrasodium]

I'm just posting what he said or implied. His point was that monsters have "crit powers" like a dragon's breath that are controlled by the DM (with still some recharge variability for "fun"). So the DM can chose to kill the players instead of it happening accidentally when you roll a crit out in the open.

I don't really agree with him about those roll a d6 & on a 5-6 the monster recovers X being a crit analog. If a big nasty monster goes down in one or two rounds facing a party of 5 each getting one or more crit chances each round it doesn't really matter & minion/mook type monsters pretty much never have roll a d6 gaining Y on a 5-6 type benefit