D&D (2024) All about Ardlings

[Corinnguard]

I think the Ardlings odds are very strong, they are more well targeted towards the game's core audience than many in the forums seem to realize.

Not the whole core audience, mind you. Each member of the audience has their own
share of likes and dislikes.

 

[Yaarel]

You are right about the etymology, but wrong about how the words are used in American English. I hear the traditional form of idyllic used in speech, but I more frequently hear it used as an adjective form of ideal ("the job site had idyllic work conditions"). That's just how people use the term.

In my ears, "idyllic work conditions" means LEISURELY, nonstressful, and uncomplicated work environment.

Heh, "idyllic work" is almost an oxymoron.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

1D&D has three celestial legacies- Exalted, Heavenly and Idyllic for their new Ardling race. I would use these three legacies for the Aasimar instead. The Idyllic legacy should be for the those Aasimar who are the descendants of the Guardinals (In PF1, there's the Idyllkin Aasimar). The Heavenly legacy should be for those who are the descendants of the Archons (who are from the Seven Heavens ). And lastly, the Exalted legacy should be for those who are the descendants of the Angels.

The problem with the Aasimar in 5e is that they are too angel-centric. Which is strange because angels aren't the only kind of Celestial in 5e.

Would this count as something more?

As I've said just make the Aasimar and making the Ardling animal head a cosmetic option on a side bar. Spread the word.

 

[Scars Unseen]

This is only one place on the entire continent of Faerun that is like Egypt, Mulhorand. So does this mean the Ardlings hail from there? It would make sense if they did. Then they could get a proper Mulhorandi name instead of what they have now as a placeholder.

I do agree with you on the Aasimar being bland in 5e. PF1 did a much better job of presenting them. But you could get a Paladin who looks like Horus by having an Aarakocra Paladin, and a Fighter who looks Ganesh by having a Loxodon Fighter.

Just going off the stripped down descriptions of races in the write-up, I'm not 100% certain they are going with Forgotten Realms as the core setting in One D&D, and frankly, I'd be glad if they didn't. So much of what went wrong with WotC's stewardship of the setting can be traced back to WotC insisting that the Realms not just include but embody whatever design elements and philosophy they're running with at the moment. I'd rather there be no core setting at all or a minimalist one like they were heading towards with Nentir Vale.

So I'm not sure that Forgotten Realms needs to suddenly have a migration of ardlings just because (and if) they are included with the core races in the new PHB. But yeah, that wouldn't be the worst origin point for them.

As I've said just make the Aasimar and making the Ardling animal head a cosmetic option on a side bar. Spread the word.

I still dislike this because I think that having the sole major distinction between aasimar and ardlings being cosmetic is a lazy and uninteresting move. I say give them different enough concepts to justify their separate inclusion instead.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

This argument about the proper nature of Paradise is going to end with one poster stomping off to Hell and claiming it for their own, isn't it?

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Just going off the stripped down descriptions of races in the write-up, I'm not 100% certain they are going with Forgotten Realms as the core setting in One D&D, and frankly, I'd be glad if they didn't. So much of what went wrong with WotC's stewardship of the setting can be traced back to WotC insisting that the Realms not just include but embody whatever design elements and philosophy they're running with at the moment. I'd rather there be no core setting at all or a minimalist one like they were heading towards with Nentir Vale.

So I'm not sure that Forgotten Realms needs to suddenly have a migration of ardlings just because (and if) they are included with the core races in the new PHB. But yeah, that wouldn't be the worst origin point for them.




I still dislike this because I think that having the sole major distinction between aasimar and ardlings being cosmetic is a lazy and uninteresting move. I say give them different enough concepts to justify their separate inclusion instead.

If Ardlings end up in the PHB they will end up in the Realms whether its treated as default or it, I promise you thank. Heck there is a huge chance they will end up in FR if Ardlings end up in Planescape instead.

 

[Scars Unseen]

If Ardlings end up in the PHB they will end up in the Realms whether its treated as default or it, I promise you thank. Heck there is a huge chance they will end up in FR if Ardlings end up in Planescape instead.

Oh sure, probably. I did express a negative view of WotC's handling of the setting, so I'm not especially confident they'd do a 180° on that suddenly. That said, demoting FR from the setting to just a setting would at least pave the way for better handling in the future, so I'm still for it.

 

[SkidAce]

Paradise isnt "quiet".

You dont have grandkids do you?

 

[Parmandur]

That's an interesting cultural titbit. I've never heard someone using British English use it that way, but a lot of American English word usage involves repurposing words that sort of way - there's another example of the tip of my tongue. Like it's not dictionary correct, and maybe is slightly irritating to the word-nerd in you, but also you know what they're saying.

Indeed! Happily for me, my word nerdery has always been descriptive, rahttham prescriptive.

 

[Yaarel]

As I've said just make the Aasimar and making the Ardling animal head a cosmetic option on a side bar. Spread the word.

Maybe the other way around. Have the ardling cater to the humanimal fans, but also allow a fully human or partially human head, for the humanocentric fans. So, awsimar is a subset of ardling.

Similarly, the tiefling also represents various Evil alignment planes, including devilish and demonic.