D&D General New WOTC racism allegations regarding Hadozee and Spelljammer

[MonsterEnvy]

Yeah giving monkeys a background as a slave race being bred for sale is pretty bad, I do hope the entire slave background has been dropped and they are just presented as another race from Yazir.

This probably would have been the best idea in hindsight.

 

[Yaarel]

Can someone with the 5e Spelljammer book cite the hadozee race description verbatim?

 

[Mind of tempest]

Masters who genetically engineer servants

has everything to do with both 5e Spelljammer and the fantasy racism in the One D&D playtest.

while you are technically correct I feel this is not the place to discuss it besides it is fairly common among human faiths thus whether gods are intrinsically slave masters is for a theological debate not on the thread of wotc being dumb.

 

[John R Davis]

Can someone with the 5e Spelljammer book cite the hadozee race description verbatim?

Clearly lot mixed up info here, being stirred up out of proportion because that's what happens in 2022.
Genetically engineered creatures meant to serve are very prevalent in sci-fi, which SJ sort of is, nearly. And if this GM creature was to be used to crew a ship with rigging etc then an ape makes a good starter template

 

[Charlaquin]

Can someone with the 5e Spelljammer book cite the hadozee race description verbatim?

Folks have done already, a couple times, but here it is again:

Several hundred years ago, a wizard visited Yazir, the hadozee home world, with a small fleet of spelljamming ships. Under the wizard’s direction, apprentices laid magic traps and captured dozens of hadozees. The wizard fed the captives an experimental elixir that enlarged them and turned them into sapient, bipedal beings. The elixir had the side effect of intensifying the hadozees’ panic response, making them more resilient when harmed. The wizard’s plan was to create an army of enhanced hadozee warriors for sale to the highest bidder. But instead, the wizard’s apprentices grew fond of the hadozees and helped them escape. The apprentices and the hadozees were forced to kill the wizard, after which they fled, taking with them all remaining vials of the wizard’s experimental elixir.

With the help of their liberators, the hadozees returned to their home world and used the elixir to create more of their kind. In time, all hadozee newborns came to possess the traits of the enhanced hadozees. Then, centuries ago, hadozees took to the stars, leaving Yazir’s fearsome predators behind.

In addition to being natural climbers, hadozees have feet that are as dexterous as their hands, even to the extent of having opposable thumbs. Membranes of skin hang loosely from their arms and legs. When stretched taut, these membranes enable hadozees to glide. Hadozees wrap these wings around themselves to keep warm.

 

[Yaarel]

while you are technically correct I feel this is not the place to discuss it besides it is fairly common among human faiths thus whether gods are intrinsically slave masters is for a theological debate not on the thread of wotc being dumb.

The problem is, the One D&D playtest is using the trope "divine creation" in a way that is overtly racist.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

Can someone with the 5e Spelljammer book cite the hadozee race description verbatim?

It was already done earlier

"The first hadozees were timid mammals no bigger than housecats. Hunted by larger natural predators, the hadozees took to the trees and evolved wing-like flaps that enabled them to glide from branch to branch.

Several hundred years ago, a wizard visited Yazir, the hadozee home world, with a small fleet of spelljamming ships. Under the wizard’s direction, apprentices laid magic traps and captured dozens of hadozees. The wizard fed the captives an experimental elixir that enlarged them and turned them into sapient, bipedal beings. The elixir had the side effect of intensifying the hadozees’ panic response, making them more resilient when harmed. The wizard’s plan was to create an army of enhanced hadozee warriors for sale to the highest bidder. But instead, the wizard’s apprentices grew fond of the hadozees and helped them escape. The apprentices and the hadozees were forced to kill the wizard, after which they fled, taking with them all remaining vials of the wizard’s experimental elixir.

With the help of their liberators, the hadozees returned to their home world and used the elixir to create more of their kind. In time, all hadozee newborns came to possess the traits of the enhanced hadozees. Then, centuries ago, hadozees took to the stars, leaving Yazir’s fearsome predators behind.

In addition to being natural climbers, hadozees have feet that are as dexterous as their hands, even to the extent of having opposable thumbs. Membranes of skin hang loosely from their arms and legs. When stretched taut, these membranes enable hadozees to glide. Hadozees wrap these wings around themselves to keep warm."

Here is their bestiary descrption

Hadozees are slender, highly adaptive Humanoids with simian features and their own language. Their feet are fully as dexterous as their hands, even to the extent of having toes that serve as opposable thumbs. Membranes of skin hang loosely from their arms and legs. When stretched taut between outstretched limbs, these membranes enable a hadozee to glide.

On Yazir, their home world, hadozees lived high up in the trees to avoid large predators that walk on land. Today, Wildspace is where most of them feel at home. Hadozees are often hired as mercenary crews by other spacefaring folk. Their natural climbing ability comes in handy, as does their ability to glide. A hadozee accustomed to space travel knows how to use a ship’s gravity plane to its advantage in combat, by diving off one side of the ship, gliding under the keel, and appearing on the opposite side of the ship from where it leapt off.

 

[Yaarel]

Folks have done already, a couple times, but here it is again:

Several hundred years ago, a wizard visited Yazir, the hadozee home world, with a small fleet of spelljamming ships. Under the wizard’s direction, apprentices laid magic traps and captured dozens of hadozees. The wizard fed the captives an experimental elixir that enlarged them and turned them into sapient, bipedal beings. The elixir had the side effect of intensifying the hadozees’ panic response, making them more resilient when harmed. The wizard’s plan was to create an army of enhanced hadozee warriors for sale to the highest bidder. But instead, the wizard’s apprentices grew fond of the hadozees and helped them escape. The apprentices and the hadozees were forced to kill the wizard, after which they fled, taking with them all remaining vials of the wizard’s experimental elixir.

With the help of their liberators, the hadozees returned to their home world and used the elixir to create more of their kind. In time, all hadozee newborns came to possess the traits of the enhanced hadozees. Then, centuries ago, hadozees took to the stars, leaving Yazir’s fearsome predators behind.

In addition to being natural climbers, hadozees have feet that are as dexterous as their hands, even to the extent of having opposable thumbs. Membranes of skin hang loosely from their arms and legs. When stretched taut, these membranes enable hadozees to glide. Hadozees wrap these wings around themselves to keep warm.

I read that earlier. So, there is no "personality" descriptions or anything about hadozee?

 

[MonsterEnvy]

Nevermind.

 

[Charlaquin]

I read that earlier. So, there is no "personality" descriptions or anything about hadozee?

I don’t have the book, but it sounds like that’s it.