D&D (2024) What older setting do you want to see next?

Which older D&D setting would you like to see next?

  • Greyhawk

    Votes: 33 26.2%
  • Mystara

    Votes: 11 8.7%
  • Birthright

    Votes: 12 9.5%
  • Council of Wyrms

    Votes: 3 2.4%
  • Ghostwalk

    Votes: 4 3.2%
  • Nentir Vale/Nerath/Points of Light

    Votes: 25 19.8%
  • Other (please specify in post)

    Votes: 11 8.7%
  • Dark Sun

    Votes: 27 21.4%

  • Poll closed .
It's canon. Remember, in 4e, everything released by Wizards was canon.

The creator of the Nerath setting ran a series of articles in Dragon called Nerathi Legends, which detailed various locations from the board game. And the map in the board game interlinks with various modules released, as well as the design art and details for the setting from the 2007 preview books.
The map of the Trollhaunt from P1 doesn't match up to the Trollhaunt area in the board game, so they can't both be canon.

Also, Wizards never said "everything is canon." They said "everything is core," meaning that all rules elements (races, classes, feats, etc.) were assumed to be equally valid in all settings.
 

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Nah, it's quite manageable. Nentir Vale just happened to get more echoes of the First World than the other settings. And pretty much every element of the 4E cosmology now has a 5E analogue (Spelljammer reintroduced astral dominions), plus Wildemount also riffs off it.

Alternatively, as I've suggested before, Nerath is the First World...
The First World is Iomandra.
 

The First World is Iomandra.
Actually, "Nerath" is only a region within the world. Other regions include "Iron Circle", "Karkoth", and "Vailin".

These might be regions within Iomandra, the homebrew world of Perkins.

If I understand correctly, Io is part of the 4e Nerath setting, being the source of both Bahamut and Tiamat.

Iomandra could be the name of the 4e world setting.
 


Iomandra and Nentir Vale are two completely different worlds. The lore is incompatible.
How do you know? Iomandra is the personal homebrew by Perkins. It is whatever he wants it to be. The map of Iomandra is a region of islands, that can also be part of the same planet as the region of Nerath.

The lore of First World and the Dawn War is sketchy and often officially ambiguous.

The map of Nerath is intentionally fill-in-the-blanks.
 



This text about Iomandra comes from a fan site: (So treat any sensitive subject matter like slavery cautiously.) It sure sounds like First World. It also sounds like 4e Nerath.



"
According to legend, Io consorted with primordial beings to create Iomandra as a playground for dragons.

Other gods flattered Io with praise for his design even as they were crafting worlds of their own, improving on his work. Io studied with envy the works of his divine peers, took note of the various humanoid races they’d created, and decided that his world needed such creatures to serve and amuse his dragons.

Io negotiated with his fellow gods to bring humans, eladrin, elves, dwarves, halflings, and other races to the world — but none of them felt quite right to him. With the help of his children, Io crafted a humanoid race modeled after dragonkind and called them the dragonborn.

The dragonborn were given every advantage, and with the help of the dragons they conquered and enslaved Iomandra’s other sentient humanoid races. The humans of Iomandra proved the most difficult to enslave; one kingdom in particular forged infernal pacts with devils in return for great power, thus birthing the tiefling race.

However, even such desperate measures could not protect them from the awesome might of the dragonborn and their dragon masters. Their empires stretched across the vast continents of the world.


The covetous dragonborn empires eventually turned on one another. Petty rivalries and territorial disputes led to wars and horrible bloodshed.

At the same time, slave revolts threatened to break the dynasties’ hold over the “lesser” races of Iomandra. To maintain order and restore paradise, Io sent his godling children to rule the great continents on his behalf, but they too became corrupt and tried to usurp each other’s power.

Three of Io’s children perished in this world-shaking feud. Furious, Io recalled to the heavens his two surviving children — Bahamut and Tiamat — and unleashed a maelstrom that would sink the continents of Iomandra beneath the sea.

Not everything was destroyed, however. In defiance of their father, Bahamut and Tiamat intervened and prevented the lands from sinking completely. Their intervention created islands around the globe where the world’s remaining inhabitants could survive and prosper.

Moved by his children’s demonstration of unity, Io left the world in their custody. However, Bahamut and Tiamat would never again see eye to eye, and to this day, each seeks to break the other’s influence.

Iomandra of the “modern day” is a watery world peppered with islands of every size and ecosystem.

"


Note, the map of Nertath and elsewhere is irregularly small. It may well be these are islands on a mainly watery planet.
Nerath.jpg



Here is the region of islands in Iomandra.
Iomandra, homebrew of Christopher Perkins.png




These can be regions of the same planet.
 

I'm surprised so many Greyhawk votes.

Dark Sun is far and away the most unique and interesting setting still needing updates for D&D 5e after we're done with Planescape.
Though I wouldn't be opposed to Birthright, and Council of Wyrms re-set within Io'mandra would just be AWESOME.

And Nerath / PoLand / Nentir Vale / Bael Turath / Arkhosia / Karkhoth / Iron Circle / Vailen would be fun to revisit, though its inclusion of classic Greyhawk locations and adventures and alternate cosmology / role for the Raven Queen makes its compatibility with both Planescape and Spelljammer very awkward…
"Uniqueness" and "interesting" aren't necessarily the best for a RPG product: tropes are useful. The recent AD&D sales numbers revelations show that Hreyhawk outsold Dark Sun several times over, so it6not surprising more fans still hold a touch for it.
 

Regarding the map of 4e Nerath. The entire map is only about 1200 miles vertically. This is roughly the distance from New York to Miami, or double the length of the island of Britain.

Much of the planet remains uncharted. It might comprise islands in a watery planet.
 
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