D&D (2024) What older setting do you want to see next?

[Clint_L]

I mean, it's gotta be Greyhawk, for the 50th anniversary, doesn't it? Making sure to include the Blackmoor region, with plenty of Easter eggs for Arneson, Gygax, and company.

 

[Parmandur]

from what I hear that is backwards adventures being the least popular with option books selling best of all?

The Adventure products jump to the top of the charts on release, and keep selling. We have reports on this forum of small store owners who keep on selling older Adventures. Xanathar's and Tasha's sell well, but they only put out the two of them in the 10 year span of 5E, as opposed to 23 largely Adventure products by the end of 2023.

 

[Muso]

Birthright was so nice. Unfortunately it come out when TSR was already doomed. In my opinion it had a lot of possibilities.

 

[Haplo781]

Maybe some old-school themed subclasses for Greyhawk? Warrior, Priest, Cutthroat and Mage. Cutthroat Rogue could have the ability to climb sheer surfaces, hide in shadows, move silently, and read languages they don't know. Maybe the Warrior Fighter has something riffing on Exceptional Strength, etc.

 

[Yaarel]

The original Flannaes are not that large, and the page count was sparse. I don't even thinknit would need that much updating, frankly.

The Flan are Indigenous in US and Canada.

Fortunately, Gygax descriptions of Flan seem mostly respectful. But a 5e update needs to have Indigenous sensitivity consults to avoid problems, such as depictions that blend in Euro cultures with Indigenous ones. In principle, I assume artists can blend any cultures, but mustnt venture in blindly because there necessarily will be problems, and some wont be obvious.

Notice the problematic portrayals of the Indigenous in Central America (Amedio) and South America (Hepmonaland), who are said to be Suel Whites who lost their White-ness.

To delete Suel from the Greyhawk setting deletes MANY problems in the setting.

But how many Greyhawk fans would be ok with that?

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Mystara (including Red Steel and Hollow World) >> Greyhawk > Other (Pelinor) > Birthright > Other (Lankhmar) > Ghostwalk, Dark Sun, Council of Worms, Nentir Vale, and all the rest that I've never played.

Goodman Games has the Lankhmar license now. They're putting out their first 5E stuff for it next year.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

To delete Suel from the Greyhawk setting deletes MANY problems in the setting.

But how many Greyhawk fans would be ok with that?

So far, they're largely steering away from world-spanning settings in 5E. They could easily zoom in on a highly gameable area of Oerth and leave the rest undetailed.

The Free City of Greyhawk is an obvious place to pick. The Great Kingdom, the Pomarj, the Bandit Kingdoms and the Lendore Isles are also all great places to zoom in on that could easily host everything from low level adventures through 1-20 campaigns.

Likewise, instead of producing "Mystara," WotC -- on the remote chance they were to revisit the setting -- would be best off doing Karameikos, Glantri or Darokin, which also means they could sidestep most of the setting's issues.

 

[Haplo781]

So far, they're largely steering away from world-spanning settings in 5E. They could easily zoom in on a highly gameable area of Oerth and leave the rest undetailed.

The Free City of Greyhawk is an obvious place to pick. The Great Kingdom, the Pomarj, the Bandit Kingdoms and the Lendore Isles are also all great places to zoom in on that could easily host everything from low level adventures through 1-20 campaigns.

Likewise, instead of producing "Mystara," WotC -- on the remote chance they were to revisit the setting -- would be best off doing Karameikos, Glantri or Darokin, which also means they could sidestep most of the setting's issues.

Or Savage Coast.

 

[Micah Sweet]

The Flan are Indigenous in US and Canada.

Fortunately, Gygax descriptions of Flan seem mostly respectful. But a 5e update needs to have Indigenous sensitivity consults to avoid problems, such as depictions that blend in Euro cultures with Indigenous ones. In principle, I assume artists can blend any cultures, but mustnt venture in blindly because there necessarily will be problems, and some wont be obvious.

Notice the problematic portrayals of the Indigenous in Central America (Amedio) and South America (Hepmonaland), who are said to be Suel Whites who lost their White-ness.

To delete Suel from the Greyhawk setting deletes MANY problems in the setting.

But how many Greyhawk fans would be ok with that?

Combine that with the earlier point that really aren't any game mechanics to add, and I conclude that there's just no worthwhile reason to update Greyhawk.

 

[Yaarel]

Or Savage Coast.

Even the name "savage" is highly problematic.

My familiarity with it specifically means a savage animal, hence ferocious and aggressive.

Unfortunately, there was a (highly racist) anthropological use of the term to mean a nonliterate aboriginal culture.

The word itself can dehumanize, especially if referring vaguely to a "savage coast", where the savages probably refer to humans or humanoids.