D&D (2024) When are we getting the second playtest document?

[ECMO3]

I wonder which order we'll see the class playtests released. Maybe they'll start with the classes that most people think need the most help (Monk, Ranger, Sorcerer). maybe they'll release the easy-to-fix classes first to give themselves more time to work on those harder ones. Maybe there will be some classes that don't get changes at all from 5e.

after tashas rangers do not need more help

 

[Gorck]

after tashas rangers do not need more help

True. I was thinking about the PBH Ranger, which was . . . not good. Tasha's fixed the class, but now they need to consolidate it into one entry rather than having it scattered across 2 books.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Have any of those suggestions  ever led to meaningful results?

I don't know, because I only know a tiny fraction of those suggestions... my own...

 

[FitzTheRuke]

On the contrary, I think there is zero chance they don't move forwards with that change, and feedback wasn't welcome because it is happening.

Well, I guess we will see. It strikes me as something that has three major problems that normally (IMO) would cause them to not move forward with due to:

1) It vastly bucks with tradition.
2) It screws up existing characters and therefore is unpopular.
3) It upsets some mixed-race real people.

These seem to me to be strong reasons why they'd backtrack on it.

Personally, I don't mind the playtest rules, but I don't see them moving forward with it. (UNLESS they come up with a way to swap a few abilities among mixed-race characters, at which point it might work. But that would require another pass at it.)

 

[Parmandur]

Well, I guess we will see. It strikes me as something that has three major problems that normally (IMO) would cause them to not move forward with due to:

1) It vastly bucks with tradition.
2) It screws up existing characters and therefore is unpopular.
3) It upsets some mixed-race real people.

These seem to me to be strong reasons why they'd backtrack on it.

Personally, I don't mind the playtest rules, but I don't see them moving forward with it. (UNLESS they come up with a way to swap a few abilities among mixed-race characters, at which point it might work. But that would require another pass at it.)

Half-Elf and Half-Orc from the 2014 PHB can still work in the game, is someone wants to use them, but this tefluff method is much, much less problematic.

 

[Vael]

I'm hoping this week, and also hoping for a class package. Now, I doubt we'll get all of them, so I'm thinking/hoping for 4 classes. Now, the obvious first four are the usual suspects: Rogue, Fighter, Cleric and Wizard. But I'm hoping they'll do the proud nails first: Sorcerer, Ranger, Monk and then Warlock (and we'll get a clearer picture of if they're doing anything with Short Rests in One DnD).

 

[Faolyn]

That's my point: they don't want real feedback. They just want to see if a lot of people don't like it, and why doesn't seem to matter. That's the only reaction they care about, because its the only one that changes their actions. They should just tell people that's what they're doing.

Well, I mean, Level Up did heritages first, then individual classes. They just didn't wait a month between playtests and were obviously interested in feedback, since they had a forum dedicated to it and not just a questionnaire.

Of course, it's entirely possible, even likely, that WotC is monitoring r/onednd and this forum and taking copious notes and just don't have someone dedicated to talking to the public.

(I will be sticking with LU and 5e, so the end result of these playtests isn't actually important to me.)

 

[FitzTheRuke]

Half-Elf and Half-Orc from the 2014 PHB can still work in the game, is someone wants to use them, but this tefluff method is much, much less problematic.

Yeah, I get that. Unfortunately, that's NOT going to work to please just about anyone who wants the mixed races to exist. I agree with you that it maybe should, but it won't. You and I don't have to worry about that, but WotC does.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

Of course, it's entirely possible, even likely, that WotC is monitoring r/onednd and this forum and taking copious notes and just don't have someone dedicated to talking to the public.

It's also fraught with peril that an employee who actually engages with the public will (accidently or not) put their foot in their mouth and do more damage than good. Better to quietly watch and report.

 

[Parmandur]

I'm hoping this week, and also hoping for a class package. Now, I doubt we'll get all of them, so I'm thinking/hoping for 4 classes. Now, the obvious first four are the usual suspects: Rogue, Fighter, Cleric and Wizard. But I'm hoping they'll do the proud nails first: Sorcerer, Ranger, Monk and then Warlock (and we'll get a clearer picture of if they're doing anything with Short Rests in One DnD).

Tasha's never did more than 2 at a time, and that UA was on a much tighter timeline, I would expect probably just 1.