Pathfinder 2E Kingmaker Preorders Open

Including the Pathfinder 2E version of the classic adventure path, along with bestiaries which enable you to use the AP with both Pathfinder 1E and with D&D 5E, Paizo has opened pre-orders for a revised version of its most popuar campaign. In addition, you can pick up kindom management tools map packs, and pawns, with 13 products in total available.

September 22, 2022 (REDMOND, Wash.) – Paizo Inc., publisher of the Pathfinder and Starfinder Roleplaying games, has opened preorders for the massive Pathfinder Kingmaker Adventure Path suite of products at PathfinderKingmaker.com. The set presents a full-length campaign that chronicles the rise of a new nation—a kingdom built and ruled by the player characters—and contains 13 products with over 1000 pages of expanded and updated tabletop roleplay game adventure material based on the Pathfinder First Edition Kingmaker Adventure Path and the Owlcat computer game adaptation. It will be available to purchase on October 26 at game and bookstores worldwide and at paizo.com.

Over a decade ago, the Pathfinder Kingmaker Adventure Path helped lead the way with an open-ended "sandbox" style adventure that encouraged exploration and conquest in a rugged wilderness. Its open-world narrative and kingdom-building elements gave players and Game Masters unparalleled freedom to explore and shape the world with their heroic actions. It became one of the best-selling and most beloved campaigns in Pathfinder's history.

In past years, Paizo published hardcover collections of the popular Rise of the Runelords and Curse of the Crimson Throne campaigns, returning beloved out-of-print favorites updated with new bridging material, new illustrations and maps, errata, and numerous additional improvements. This release brings Kingmaker into the same fold, bigger and better than ever before.

The expansion includes content from Owlcat Games’ best-selling computer game adaptation of the Kingmaker campaign added new adventures, new mysteries, and more than a dozen new companions to accompany the players as they expand their holdings from a single fortress to a burgeoning empire.

This multi-product release includes Pathfinder Kingmaker Adventure Path, a massive new deluxe limited-edition hardcover compilation updated to the latest Pathfinder rules. The Kingmaker Companion Guide presents seven fully detailed companions inspired by the Kingmaker video game, ready to provide all sorts of assistance, each accompanied by a fully detailed personalized adventure to go along with their story. The Kingmaker Bestiary 1st Edition and Kingmaker Bestiary 5th Edition help those who prefer to convert the adventure to their games. The suite includes many additional accessories to enhance play!

Players can find detailed descriptions on each product on the site:

• Pathfinder Kingmaker Adventure Path (P2)
• Pathfinder Kingmaker Adventure Path Special Edition (P2)
• Pathfinder Kingmaker Bestiary (First Edition) (P1)
• Pathfinder Kingmaker Bestiary (Fifth Edition) (5E)
• Pathfinder Kingmaker Companion Guide (P2)
• Pathfinder Kingmaker Companion Guide Special Edition (P2)
• Pathfinder Kingmaker Kingdom Management Screen (P2)
• Pathfinder Kingmaker Kingdom Management Tracker (P2)
• Pathfinder Kingmaker Poster Map Folio
• Pathfinder Kingmaker Pawn Box
• Pathfinder Flip-Mat: Kingmaker Adventure Path Campsite Multi-Pack
• Pathfinder Flip-Mat: Kingmaker Adventure Path Noble Manor Multi-Pack
• Pathfinder Flip-Mat: Kingmaker Adventure Path River Kingdoms Ruins Multi-Pack

Soon, you can face off against bands of bloodthirsty bandits, deadly and dangerous monsters, and mysterious menaces from other realities as you fight to claim the Stolen Lands as your own. Will you rule with justice and mercy, or will you become the very monsters you fought to oppose? In the Kingmaker Adventure Path, the destiny of the world’s newest nation is yours to decide!

Preorder today at PathfinderKingmaker.com.

 

[SteveC]

It's interesting to think about where Paizo is going in light of the One D&D announcement. The major revision projects that they work on usually take a year or even more to come through, so I doubt you will see another major one until after the new edition launches. 5E products definitely have a short shelf life since there is no indication where D&D will be in a couple of years.

Edited to add: this is related to the 5E content, I think they will continue development of major hard back releases and compilations for earlier APs. Everything that I have heard indicates Apocalypse Vault and Kingmaker are shockingly successful. I suspect that if there was no One D&D they'd continue with 5E adaptations as well.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

It's interesting to think about where Paizo is going in light of the One D&D announcement. The major revision projects that they work on usually take a year or even more to come through, so I doubt you will see another major one until after the new edition launches. 5E products definitely have a short shelf life since there is no indication where D&D will be in a couple of years.

Edited to add: this is related to the 5E content, I think they will continue development of major hard back releases and compilations for earlier APs. Everything that I have heard indicates Apocalypse Vault and Kingmaker are shockingly successful. I suspect that if there was no One D&D they'd continue with 5E adaptations as well.

Yeah, it really depends on what the rest of 1D&D looks like. If they really are sticking closer to 5E than 3.5 stuck to 3E, most third party products should continue to work just fine, other than maybe some stylistic stuff with how monsters are presented.

But the 3E --> 3.5 transition was catastrophic for a lot of third party publishers and products (Redhurst: Academy of Magic, you deserved to be a star!), and the survivors from that time are wise to be wary.

 

[whimsychris123]

Just to talk about the price more...Kingmaker is $99 for a 600+ page book that takes characters from levels 1 to 20. Wild Beyond the Witchlight is $50 for 250 pages that takes character to level 8. $99 doesn't look too bad. And if you compare it to Spelljammer in terms of pages and price, forget about it.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Just to talk about the price more...Kingmaker is $99 for a 600+ page book that takes characters from levels 1 to 20. Wild Beyond the Witchlight is $50 for 250 pages that takes character to level 8. $99 doesn't look too bad. And if you compare it to Spelljammer in terms of pages and price, forget about it.

I think people here are mostly focused on the $150 price tag for the 5E package.

 

[doctorhook]

I think people here are mostly focused on the $150 price tag for the 5E package.

I’m 100% into it for the PF2 version. PF2 is one of my life rafts away from 5E. I’m imagining most of the interest is in the primary release, not the 5E spinoff version.

EDIT: Seems like I’m the only person in this thread who’s specifically stated “Yes, I’m planning to play this is using PF2e.”

 

[Retreater]

EDIT: Seems like I’m the only person in this thread who’s specifically stated “Yes, I’m planning to play this is using PF2e.”

I hope you report back about the PF2e experience.
I have reservations about how the finally tuned combat system can handle the wilds of the Stolen Lands.

 

[doctorhook]

I hope you report back about the PF2e experience.
I have reservations about how the finally tuned combat system can handle the wilds of the Stolen Lands.

Tbh I’m curious too. The system seems unsuited for hexcrawling-style random encounters, but I love the system and the style, so I’m hoping the big brains at Paizo have some good innovations to meld the two.

 

[payn]

Tbh I’m curious too. The system seems unsuited for hexcrawling-style random encounters, but I love the system and the style, so I’m hoping the big brains at Paizo have some good innovations to meld the two.

From my experience, PF2 might work out well in this instance. A lot of complaints about KM hexcrawling came about because it never challenged for a full day. It was like one, maybe two encounters a day/hex. PF2 actually shines in this type of game, which is certainly not how I experienced old school sandboxes (one of my big complaints about PF2 is its inability to emulate that play).

 

[Thrawn007]

Has anyone received this, and if they have can they confirm how much of the new stuff from Owlcat was added into the based AP.

For instance was the Dwarf fortress in expanded in part 2? What about the Barbarians in the east and the Defaced Sisters? Any new maps? I’m really interested to know if the adaptions are just tokens or a genuine update.

I have everything in pdf and almost all of the print components.

The anniversary edition has the additional NPCs, locations, and storylines from Owlcat. I looked for a number of items from the video game, and everyone I looked for was there. It even goes further developing some of these events with impacts on kingdoms, armies, and politics. The whole product was improved at each step moving from 1e to the video game to 2e, resulting in the anniversary edition is far superior to the original with a cleaner story and a new take on subsystems that looks promising on paper.

Note: The number of encounters at locations are greatly reduced compared to the video game.

 

[Thrawn007]

I hope you report back about the PF2e experience.
I have reservations about how the finally tuned combat system can handle the wilds of the Stolen Lands.

They have zoned areas so that you can focus on level appropriate challenges. If a third level party decides to skip to a cr20 dragon lair, they are going to die, likely long before reaching the lair. I think it's a good balance of true sandbox and some rails to keep balance