D&D (2024) Expert Classes - Feats Discussion

[jmartkdr2]

I feel like it should be prof bonus instead.

Or at least the shield's bonus to AC if magical.

 

[Lojaan]

WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO no more PAM+spear+shield cheese! Or even more ridiculous - PAM+quarterstaff+shield cheese!

Sweet sweet validation.

Now I just need an official post from WoTC saying that anyone who thought that you could use the extra attack from PAM with a weapon you are wielding in one hand (because of the errata that let you use it with a spear, or a quarterstaff which is stupidly also listed as 'versatile'), and get to use a shield in the other, are poo poo heads and aught to be ashamed of themselves.

I am aware that this is unlikely.

 

[BlackSeed_Vash]

Fighting Styles as feats mean whenever a class/subclass grants them, they don't have to waste extra space printing the list and what they do for each individual one. Also, when a new Fighting Style is created it's just available (assuming DM allows book).

 

[Stalker0]

Elemental adept.
you treat immunity on chosen element as resistance.

I personally have always hated that concept.

Dropping resistances to immunities, I am good with that. But immunities are rare and special, and in many monster cases are an innate part of the creature's physiology.

The idea that a fire element can walk through lava just fine but your little 1d8 fireblast is "so hot that it burns the hottest fire"....sorry, no that's just bump kiss to me.

I do agree with that the 1->2s is an annoying mechanic, but the stuff above is not how I would fix it. I would do a simple +1 damage for every 2 dice rolled, minimum 1, or something like that.

 

[jmartkdr2]

I personally have always hated that concept.

Dropping resistances to immunities, I am good with that. But immunities are rare and special, and in many monster cases are an innate part of the creature's physiology.

The idea that a fire element can walk through lava just fine but your little 1d8 fireblast is "so hot that it burns the hottest fire"....sorry, no that's just bump kiss to me.

I do agree with that the 1->2s is an annoying mechanic, but the stuff above is not how I would fix it. I would do a simple +1 damage for every 2 dice rolled, minimum 1, or something like that.

There’s a few special cases where I can imagine a solution (ie holy fire ignores fiends’ fire immunity) but nothing I would grant as a feat (holy fire comes from an item or epic boon)

 

[Corinnguard]

I honestly don't know how to feel about Fighting Styles being feats.

I am actually happy that the Fighting Styles are going to be 1st-level feats for those in the Warrior Group (in addition to the Ranger and the Paladin classes). The Fighting styles represent a style of training that the melee types have either practiced on their own, or were taught to them by a more experienced fighter, monk, etc. When I first started playing 5e last year, I was kind of bothered that just about everyone could wield two weapons. I was more use to how TWF was handled in 3e, as the starter feat for a variety of two-weapon combat feats (Improved TWF, Greater TWF, Two-Weapon Rend, etc.)

I wonder if there will be subclasses that specialize in a particular Fighting Style in One D&D.

 

[Bill Zebub]

I am actually happy that the Fighting Styles are going to be 1st-level feats for those in the Warrior Group (in addition to the Ranger and the Paladin classes).

I wonder if one implication of this is that the Warrior group classes get another goodie. That is, if everybody now gets a first level feat…something new…but some classes have to spend that feat to get something they already had, are they getting something new to compensate?

(In before “no, they are only taking things away because WotC hates martials and is only catering to kids who play video games and can’t handle complexity which is how they make the most money while worshipping Satan and putting pineapple on pizza.” So if that’s what you were going to say no need to bother; I gotcha covered.)

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

I notice that Great Weapon Fighting still has the same language saying that you can reroll 1 and 2 on any damage dice related to your attack, not just the weapon dice.

 

[UngainlyTitan]

So we see 4th level feats - and some 20th level feats. The question is whether there are 8th or 12th level feats or just 1st, 4th, and 20th level feats. Some takeaways

There are 8th level feats in the Giant UA, but they do give stat boosts and I now think that level 8 feats should give at least a +1 ASI.

 

[Mistwell]

Good catch. Also the only level 1 feat with +1 to a stat.

Funny thing:
With lightly armored you can recreate the mountain dwarf but better by chosing this feat.

Er, no it doesn't? Lightly armored doesn't come with a +1 to a stat.