Dragonlance Dragonlance Shadow of the Dragon Queen shows up in the wild!

[MonsterEnvy]

True, but that doesn't make him not undertuned for a CR 19. CRs on statblocks represent the statblock, not an entire encounter featuring it.

He's not undertunned.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

Just took a quick look at the calculator and I think I know why we are a 1/2 CR off. The calculator automatically takes resistances and immunities into account and the DMG is more nuanced than that. I didn't modify Soth's HP because of his resistances and HP as I don't think he had enough to warrant an adjustment, and I imagine the calculator did. Oddly, the calculator doesn't take into account the number of resistances as the DMG specifically mentions having 3 or more, may need a HP adjustment. So that is the floor to determining a HP adjustment (3 resistances)

I did not give him any resistances. (Other than Magic Resistance.)

 

[Micah Sweet]

He's not undertunned.

He certainly is by my standards, but I grade noticeably harder than WotC's 5e DMG.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

He certainly is by my standards, but I grade noticeably harder than WotC's 5e DMG.

Yeah but that is not the standards the game goes by. Like you can say you think he should be stronger, But that would be a higher CR. He's not undertunned by the games rules.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

Does the new book make any mention of Gully Dwarves?

No.

 

[the Jester]

Found them.

I am very happy to see his Word of Death ability. I was afraid that they were going to leave it out.

 

[Scribe]

He certainly is by my standards, but I grade noticeably harder than WotC's 5e DMG.

Yeah but there is an official grade system here.

 

[Kai Lord]

No.

Bummer. But no surprise I guess. Thanks for confirming.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

Bummer. But no surprise I guess. Thanks for confirming.

They were pretty terrible, don't quite understand why you would want them back.

 

[dave2008]

I did not give him any resistances. (Other than Magic Resistance.)

OK, I just used the calculator and got 19 too. It looks correct to me. Not sure where I made the mistake previously, but I was just doing it in my head so probably forgot to carry the one!

However, that is only if you assume just 70 damage for his cataclysmic fire. Technically it is an AoE attack and you should double the damage. If you do that, I get CR 20!

Her is the example from the DMG:
"For example, a young white dragon has a multiattack routine (one bite attack and two claw attacks) that deals an average of 37 damage each round, as well as a breath weapon that deals 45 damage, or 90 if it hits two targets (and it probably will). In the first three rounds of combat, the dragon will probably get to use its breath weapon once and its multiattack routine twice, so its average damage output for the first three rounds would be (90 + 37 + 37) ÷ 3, or 54 damage (rounded down)."