NEWS; Gunning down the Snyderverse UPDATE Cavill gets the Kryptonite handshake!


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I'm more of a Marvel person in the comics and films, mostly because the characters are generally more grounded, and the movies aren't bleak dystopias where the super-"heroes" wouldn't know how to be a superhero if a kid in a towel-cape showed them. Here's to hoping Gunn's version of the DCU will be more four color and less murderers with powers.
you know it's funny in one of the many cross-ever events between the two (DC and Marvel) the Marvel heroes at first thought everyone was brainwashed for how heroes were treated in the DCverse compared to their own.
 

overgeeked

B/X Known World
you know it's funny in one of the many cross-ever events between the two (DC and Marvel) the Marvel heroes at first thought everyone was brainwashed for how heroes were treated in the DCverse compared to their own.
The people probably knew that unless the "heroes" were treated like gods they'd be murdered en masse.
 


GreyLord

Legend
In the first big bold move by the new boses at DC, Patty Jenkins has been told that her treatment for Wonder Woman 3 does not fit the new vision for the DC Universe. While its not an outright cut after the poor performance of WW2 and ongoing problems and financial blow outs at WB its looking unlikely that Jenkins or Gal Gadot will be back.

Moreover James Gunn and Pete Sanfran have promised that there will be only One DC Universe and many are expecting that means they’ll be wanting to clear out all the lingering remants of the Snyderverse and the looming shadow of Dwayne Johnsons Black Adam too. Breakdowns in negotiations with Henry Cavill are likely symptoms of that since The Rock has his fingers all over that Super pie.

Gunn and Safran said in a joint statement that they wanted to create an integrated, multilayered universe that still allows for the individual expression of the artists involved. Our commitment to Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Harley Quinn, and the rest of the DC stable of characters is only equalled by our commitment to the wonder of human possibility these characters represent.

Its rumoured that Gunn will be focussing on Amanda Waller as the lynchpin for the new DC Universe and that the One vision will go across all media including Animation.

so what do you’ll think? will Gunn be a new broom that renews and rebuilds the DC Cinematic presence or is it sign of ongoing doom…

The Suicide Squad bombed.

In my opinion it WAS NOT because it got streamed...but because it sucked. It's the WORST Superhero Movie I've seen in the past 20 years.

A few hardcore fans overlooked the travesty that it was and praise it to high heaven, while everyone else passed the word on that this movie was really THAT BAD. IT REALLY WAS bad.

Somebody doesn't realize this.

So, instead, they take the guy who had one of the worst bombs for a Superhero movie in the past 10 years and put him in charge?

This looks like it's going well already...

If they decide to boot Cavill...I think they will lose a LOT of us as viewers.

Gunn did well with GotG...but he sucks with DC thus far from what I've seen.

If they thought Snyder was bad news...everything I've seen from Gunn in the DC looks like it could be worse.

Luckily I have nothing invested in that company. It looks like they are making bad decisions and will continue to make bad decisions. I don't see this going well right now.

We'll see though.

PS: Just read an update. These guys are BAD PR right now. It's REALLY BAD from what I've heard.

One item that's kind of upset (light word) people, they cancelled the Michael Keaton movie. Not just said they were open to rewrites, flat out cancelled him. The movie...Batman Beyond.

This was a STUPID move to hire this guy from what I'm seeing right now. Gunn is going to KILL DC movies for a Decade.

If they don't do something quick the bad PR is going to BE REALLY bad I think. The lost Patty, They seem to be killing Cavill, and they killed Keaton...I haven't heard a SINGLE GOOD idea that they have yet.
 
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Vael

Legend
I think the last DC movie I liked was Wonder Woman, but 84 was a mess. Mind you, I haven't bothered to watch the Snyder cut of JL, Birds of Prey or The Suicide Squad. Aquaman was dumb fun but that's about it. I haven't even seen The Batman.

I'm kinda only begrudgingly watching Marvel right now, DC hasn't got anything interesting me aside from the tranwreck of office politics as they try to recreate Marvel's success.
 

billd91

Not your screen monkey (he/him)
The Suicide Squad bombed.

In my opinion it WAS NOT because it got streamed...but because it sucked. It's the WORST Superhero Movie I've seen in the past 20 years.

A few hardcore fans overlooked the travesty that it was and praise it to high heaven, while everyone else passed the word on that this movie was really THAT BAD. IT REALLY WAS bad.

Somebody doesn't realize this.
Well, those somebodies apparently include 90% of critics and 82% of viewers on Rotten Tomatoes.
 

GreyLord

Legend
I think the last DC movie I liked was Wonder Woman, but 84 was a mess. Mind you, I haven't bothered to watch the Snyder cut of JL, Birds of Prey or The Suicide Squad. Aquaman was dumb fun but that's about it. I haven't even seen The Batman.

I'm kinda only begrudgingly watching Marvel right now, DC hasn't got anything interesting me aside from the tranwreck of office politics as they try to recreate Marvel's success.

Here's the crazy thing.

Many feel WW84 was trash. It was released in the first year of the pandemic before we had any real vaccines available for everyone. It was also released to streaming pretty darn quick.

The Suicide Squad was released AFTER the vaccines were out though we were still very concerned about the pandemic. It was also released to streaming pretty darn quick.

WW84 was released under worse conditions and worse timing than TSS.

TSS STILL did worse than WW84. If that says anything.

Yet, they decide to put Gunn in charge?

It doesn't really make any sense from that veiwpoint. They want to recreate a Marvel MCU, which is probably why the got Gunn. He's the only one willing to jump ship that has experience doing it...but he didn't do so well with TSS.

They ONLY hear those who praise TSS. They don't realize that one BIG reason it did so badly was there were a ton of us who saw it...and hated it...and spread it to our friends on how bad it was. They don't realize how badly it did from those of us who didn't like it...as they only seem to hear those who praise it.

But the money doesn't lie...and it did pretty darn badly.
 

GreyLord

Legend
Well, those somebodies apparently include 90% of critics and 82% of viewers on Rotten Tomatoes.

Read the above. critics are out of touch with viewers...and TSS bombed pretty darn badly.

IT wasn't a mistake that it bombed either. I was part of the wave that made it bomb. We know why it bombed, but no one really pays attention to the silent watchers...even if the money indicates that MAYBE something more is up.

IF Gunn makes more movies just like his TSS...I think DC will be in a LOT of trouble. If they thought the Snyderverse was bad in that department...well...Gunn could be about to say...here...hold this...

Gunn did well with GotG...at least two of the films. But other than that I don't think his filmography really justifies putting him in charge as they have. They are desperate for a Marvel and he's available is what it boils down to. His profits aren't really up there in regards to others that probably could do a better job.

BUT...we will see. He might have a plan, but from the rumors coming out right now...he has a seriously BAD PR problem. If they let it keep on getting worse and out of hand...he's going to kill his studio before it even has a chance to get off the ground.
 

Ryujin

Legend
The Suicide Squad bombed.

In my opinion it WAS NOT because it got streamed...but because it sucked. It's the WORST Superhero Movie I've seen in the past 20 years.

A few hardcore fans overlooked the travesty that it was and praise it to high heaven, while everyone else passed the word on that this movie was really THAT BAD. IT REALLY WAS bad.

Somebody doesn't realize this.

So, instead, they take the guy who had one of the worst bombs for a Superhero movie in the past 10 years and put him in charge?

This looks like it's going well already...

If they decide to boot Cavill...I think they will lose a LOT of us as viewers.

Gunn did well with GotG...but he sucks with DC thus far from what I've seen.

If they thought Snyder was bad news...everything I've seen from Gunn in the DC looks like it could be worse.

Luckily I have nothing invested in that company. It looks like they are making bad decisions and will continue to make bad decisions. I don't see this going well right now.

We'll see though.

PS: Just read an update. These guys are BAD PR right now. It's REALLY BAD from what I've heard.

One item that's kind of upset (light word) people, they cancelled the Michael Keaton movie. Not just said they were open to rewrites, flat out cancelled him. The movie...Batman Beyond.

This was a STUPID move to hire this guy from what I'm seeing right now. Gunn is going to KILL DC movies for a Decade.

If they don't do something quick the bad PR is going to BE REALLY bad I think. The lost Patty, They seem to be killing Cavill, and they killed Keaton...I haven't heard a SINGLE GOOD idea that they have yet.
Do you really mean "The Suicide Squad" or "Suicide Squad" because, rather unfortunately, those two very closely named movies are rather different.
 

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