NEWS; Gunning down the Snyderverse UPDATE Cavill gets the Kryptonite handshake!

[Umbran]

We know why it bombed,

It was the pandemic. Everything bombed. People's actions were not based on typical notions of movie quality, so the Box Office shouldn't be considered indicative of anything.

but no one really pays attention to the silent watchers..

Well, no. Because, by your own admission, they are SILENT. Hard to pay attention to someone who isn't telling you anything.

 

[Rabulias]

And yet Shang-Chi made 3x that amount. Close release date to it as well. In fact, TSS was still in theaters at the time.

Black Widow released earlier and with streaming being seen as cutting it's profits made 379 million.

Another thing to consider is that these films you compare it to are rated PG-13, while The Suicide Squad was rated R. That immediately cuts a big portion of movie-going folks (perhaps the largest?) out of its potential audience, and factors into gauging its financial success.

 

[DetachedObserver]

That movie is the longest train crash in History! It just keeps getting worst...

It's like the Duke Nuke 'Em Forever of movie "blockbusters"!

 

[Tonguez]

Despite some flaws, I liked Man of Steel. And I actually think Batman v. Superman is overly maligned - I thought the first two-thirds or so was pretty good, with some nice elements (e.g. I loved the "Superman dystopia" dream sequence). The theatrical JL was a horrible movie, but the Snyder cut was, at least, better, if still not great and now overly bloated.

But more to your point, they were, at least, memorable - especially the first two. I can't say as much for the other DCEU movies I've seen.

no BvS deserves to be maligned as it took three iconic and clever comic book stories and mashed them together in a stupid mess that was all brooding spectacle and no substance. Batman the brooding detective was tricked by a note written in red crayon and Superman was an angst filled whiner who just left advanced Kryptonian tech lying around for anyone to wander into? Pinning Doomsday on the end was a crime and if Snyder wanted a Dystopia they should have just made the Injustice movie.

I dont think Snyders JL cut was better either, just bloated. The chapter structure helped to make it coherent but the Cyborg exposition dump by AR was unnecessary

 

[trappedslider]

I dont think Snyders JL cut was better either, just bloated. The chapter structure helped to make it coherent but the Cyborg exposition dump by AR was unnecessary

IT's what happens when you have two movies (well one and a half fully made) but only four hours

 

[FitzTheRuke]

It's probably just as well to move away from the Snyderverse. Snyder can film a beautiful, iconic shot, but he can't write a story to save his life, nor does he understand character. (In particular, these characters - but I don't think he understands character at all).

Gunn is the opposite - he gets characters. He might be a bit too goofy, though. We'll have to see. Some characters are great with comedy, others not so much. I'd like to see if he can pull off a variety of tone, which is the main thing that the MCU is missing (it's all one tone, for the most part - they all feel the same).

DC's characters need a variety of tones. They can't all be grimdark, but they can't all be slapstick either. (Frankly, that's true of Marvel too).

 

[Ryujin]

Just a brief aside: If you want to see a grimdark Superman style origin story, watch "Brightburn." I think it's on Netflix.

Edit - Produced by James Gunn.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Fun fact-

The natural conclusion of James Gunn's career ....

Is to star in an R-rated Colonel Sanders biopic.

Do you want to know what else is Finger Lickin' Good? Ohhhhh yeah!

 

[Undrave]

Honestly, I feel like there should be TWO DC universe of movie: one for Batman and the other 'Street Detective' types of characters (Green Arrow, The Question, Huntress, Black Canary, etc) and one for the Gods (Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, Flash, Shazam, etc). The first one can be more grounded and gritty, with a relatively lower budget where you can give more freedom to Directors, and the other more spectacular and high budget.

 

[Undrave]

Fun fact-

The natural conclusion of James Gunn's career ....

Is to star in an R-rated Colonel Sanders biopic.

Do you want to know what else is Finger Lickin' Good? Ohhhhh yeah!

He could play Sanders in the Colonel of Two Worlds adaptation!