D&D 5E (2014) Companion thread to 5E Survivor: Species

[Vaalingrade]

the only time anything is any of those qualities is when I am drunk, depressed or desperate.

That's my secret, MoT, I'm always all three.

 

[Mind of tempest]

That's my secret, MoT, I'm always all three.

is your life worse than mine as if not I see few justifications for being that way.
also do you mean desperate in the way I mean desperate?

 

[Vaalingrade]

is your life worse than mine as if not I see few justifications for being that way.
also do you mean desperate in the way I mean desperate?

I meant it as a joke.

If your feeling this way, please find someone you can trust to confide in and I hope things get better for you, my friend.

 

[Mind of tempest]

I meant it as a joke.

If your feeling this way, please find someone you can trust to confide in and I hope things get better for you, my friend.

I have been this way for over half my life it is my average set up thus my normal, better is a rare flow in these parts so often hoarded that few even know it scent.

 

[CleverNickName]

they're from the explorer's guide to wildemount but beyond that i don't know what you're asking for? does someone have to 'make' a subspecies?

Yes. And ideally, that "someone" is you, the player. Not arbitrary, broad-brush stereotypes.
(drags out Tasha's Soapbox of Everything, climbs atop it...)

 

[Argyle King]

So in an alternate universe you'd have the same issue with rogues.

Sorry to hear you had a bad experience. For us, we've often had the 'what is my real me play, mixed with smooth cons.

If they (rogues) had some ability to mimic being someone else at-will so that the DM could repeatedly nullify any action taken by the players, yeah.

(Note: For similar reasons, I'm not excited about Skrulls being brought into the MCU. I feel like it enables lazy writing.)

 

[Mind of tempest]

Yes. And ideally, that "someone" is you, the player. Not arbitrary, broad-brush stereotypes.
(drags out Tasha's Soapbox of Everything, climbs atop it...)

now are you going to make a whole culture with depth and no stereotypes before a game that is just impractical, every handbook race has a stereotype as a building point.

 

[Vaalingrade]

If they (rogues) had some ability to mimic being someone else at-will so that the DM could repeatedly nullify any action taken by the players, yeah.

So yes then.

(Note: For similar reasons, I'm not excited about Skrulls being brought into the MCU. I feel like it enables lazy writing.)

Honestly more concerned they'll do that with the Multiverse. Or worse, doing an Ultimate Marvel movie.

 

[Riley]

Haven't you heard? Tolkien is old-hat. Out of fashion. Tired, and played-out, and (insert cliché for 'not new' here).

Old and Busted: Tolkien elves and dwarves and hobbits saving the world, in a high fantasy epic campaign saga.
New Hotness: Marvel superheroes with mutant powers from another dimension, sandboxing in a cinematic Hollywood blockbuster.

My son has spent the last several days studying the "Dungeons & Dragons Young Adventurer's Guides" I had strategically placed on his bookshelf.

Today, he announced he wants to make two characters: A ranger outlander, and a blue dragon lineage sorcerer.

Both elves.

I feel validated.

 

[Argyle King]

So yes then.

Honestly more concerned they'll do that with the Multiverse. Or worse, doing an Ultimate Marvel movie.

I'm not sure that I understand the rogue parallel, but maybe.

To elaborate: literally the entire campaign was based around the idea that anybody could possibly be the villain. Not in a paranoia way; more in the vein of "your healing potion doesn't work because the shopkeeper was actually the BBEG and he gave you fakes." Then later, when we actually fought the villain, we didn't actually because that was a different changling used as a decoy by the BBEG. It was pretty much that, over and over again. Seemingly, there was no way for the players to ever actually succeed at something.

That was back during 3.5. Their shape-shifting ability also allowed being small, medium, or large. In theory, it was possible to roll a skill check to see through the disguise, but the chances to succeed were low. Even if one of the players did miraculously succeed: you know it's a changeling but you don't know if it's the right one.

I wish I could say that I was making this up. But, I'm not. It's one of the only times I hoped for a TPK so the campaign could end.

On the player end... there's not a way to elaborate on that without saying things that may be triggering for somebody reading it. The nicest way I can put it is that I didn't enjoy being at a table to help facilitate someone's mental masterbation to their fantasy of being able to trick people into non-consensual intimacy.


On Marvel: I somewhat agree with your multiverse comments. On one hand, it's cool too see variant takes on characters. However, it's now getting to the point where it's difficult to buy into the stakes of a conflict in the MCU.

It's kinda like Star Trek time-travel being used to reset a series or rewrite lore. Once or twice, it's cool and possibly even clever. When it is overdone, it hurts the audience's (or maybe just my) ability to emotionally buy into the stakes of a conflict.