D&D 5E Companion thread to 5E Survivor: Species

It is a battle for middle-earth, Dwarves vs Elves.
I predict every other will get exterminated - the way Shifters and the Anthropomorphics are slowly being eliminated

Aasimar 14
Dragonborn 12
Dwarf 28
Elf & Half-Elf 26
Genasi 40
Gith 25
Gnome 20
Goblin 12
Half-Orc 14
Halfling 19
Hobgoblin 12
Kobold 16
Lizardfolk 10
Minotaur 13
Satyr 16
Shifter 22
Tabaxi 11
 

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Only 26 Survivors left, and a four-way tie for first place! This has turned out to be a bigger cliff- hanger than I thought it would.
Really, it was always likely to end up with something like this. The enormous list meant some of the "take down the biggest thing" pressure didn't apply, because it took so long to search through it for the biggest thing. Further, with some options having a dozen (or more!) different things--and thus an absolutely massive footprint in comparison to something like Satyr--there was an unusual "bring down the things that got an (allegedly) unfair advantage" motive, once the handful of intensely (if not necessarily widely) disliked options were gone.

Further, with such an enormous pool to churn through and participants aware of the almost inherent "mediocrity/traditionalism wins" pattern, there's been a conscious effort to "fight the power" as it were. That's a lot harder to resist when there are so many options and all it takes is 2-3 people consistently targeting a particular option to remove it (see: Lotusden and Chromatic.) That's why humans were removed almost immediately, because they were affected by both the opposition to having a perceived unfair advantage with 7 entries, and the opposition to allowing the perceived "boring" option to win because it always will if it makes it to the end.

Hence why we now have so many people--including yourself--feeling that there are no good options. Previous rounds have taught folks, or at least those actually wanting to strategize, that you should target the inoffensively-bland options first. Because those are the ones that will sail through, ignored or slowly boosted by their fans, while the controversial options get blasted out due to non-fans (or even anti-fans) outnumbering fans in essentially all cases (Lore Bard being a key exception to this pattern.)

If you want your pick to succeed, you shoot at the ones that people could settle for once all their preferences are gone. Worst-case scenario, you make it into the late stages and the dogpile happens to fall upon the stuff you want. Best-case scenario, the same thing happens except the things you don't want get dogpiled. Likely case? Something like what you've described for yourself: people who check out and thus stop downvoting, or who downvote sporadically/randomly, and thus pose much less threat until the very end (or no threat at all, for the former.)

You want people to see the thing you like and think, "Well, I don't really like it myself, but I'd rather this win than the other things."
It is a battle for middle-earth, Dwarves vs Elves.
I predict every other will get exterminated - the way Shifters and the Anthropomorphics are slowly being eliminated
Bit of a hard sell, there, given that there are 88 points' worth of "anthropomorphics and shifters" to churn through while only 28+26 = 54 Dwarf/Elf+Half-Elf points to churn through. Especially because there are people specifically gunning for the removal of the "Tolkienesque" options for reasons mentioned above.

My prediction is that none of the "Tolkienesque" races will make it to the Final Five. The closest we'll get will be either Half-Elf or Half-Orc, likely the former because they're prettier. Instead, one of the "anthropomorphics" will survive the meatgrinder (I would make a prediction, but that would make people downvote it, so I will stay stilent), and Genasi will hang on by a thread purely by the numbers. From there, it'll be a pseudo-random draw for what the other two end up being, my money being on Gnome and Gith at present purely by the numbers. That's somewhat disheartening to say, because it doesn't include any of the options I like (other than the "anthropomorphic" option I'm not naming so it doesn't get deleted), but it's the loosely most-likely option given past trends.

So that would be a score of 50 for the Animorphs? Meaning they are still in the lead? Sheesh, is there any way we can call animal control or something?
By my count, if you include kobolds (which I do), it's 88. Unless you don't count shifters, in which case it's 66.

Is that better or worse than the 100 points that Tieflings-of-some-stripe started out with?
 

Bit of a hard sell, there, given that there are 88 points' worth of "anthropomorphics and shifters" to churn through while only 28+26 = 54 Dwarf/Elf+Half-Elf points to churn (snip)
88 scattered with many not fully supported by voters which makes for easy kills (happened to the variant tieflings and now shifters and likely the genasi). When it comes to the final elf + half-elf + dwarf i think they will be much more difficult to eliminate. Just look how difficult it was to remove the High Elf.

The guys that support the Satyr, Tabaxi and Lizardfolk need to focus fire, otherwise they are dead in the water just like their buddies the Tortle and the Owlin.
 
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88 scattered with many not fully supported by voters which makes for easy kills (happened to the variant tieflings and now shifters and likely the genasi). When it comes to the final elf + half-elf + dwarf i think they will be much more difficult to eliminate. Just look how difficult it was to remove the High Elf.

The guys that support the Satyr, Tabaxi and Lizardfolk need to focus fire, otherwise they dead in the water just like their buddies the Tortle and the Owlin.
I would like to direct your attention to halflings.
 


I know I'm in the minority, but I like the mix of what is left.

•Dwarves are there to represent Tolkien-y fantasy, but without the snooty ubermensch culture of elves. (Dwarves also have more recent versions such as those in Dragon Age.)

•I like Tabaxi and Lizardfolk for having some connection to Elder Scrolls (a game series which I enjoy). I've also always preferred lizardfolk over dragonborn, for a variety of reasons.

•I have both negative and positive feelings toward genasi, so it roughly balances out. The negatives are that I feel they are the new elves, in that there is one for each landscape (so as to give a story reason for why someone isn't just min-maxing). The positives are that it's a similar niche to aasimar/tiefling, but without the religious baggage.

The rest I'm trying to weigh against what else is there. I have voted up owlin due to a character idea which is fresh in my mind. I like half-elves (but the OG version).
 

I know I'm in the minority, but I like the mix of what is left.

•Dwarves are there to represent Tolkien-y fantasy, but without the snooty ubermensch culture of elves. (Dwarves also have more recent versions such as those in Dragon Age.)

•I like Tabaxi and Lizardfolk for having some connection to Elder Scrolls (a game series which I enjoy). I've also always preferred lizardfolk over dragonborn, for a variety of reasons.

•I have both negative and positive feelings toward genasi, so it roughly balances out. The negatives are that I feel they are the new elves, in that there is one for each landscape (so as to give a story reason for why someone isn't just min-maxing). The positives are that it's a similar niche to aasimar/tiefling, but without the religious baggage.

The rest I'm trying to weigh against what else is there. I have voted up owlin due to a character idea which is fresh in my mind. I like half-elves (but the OG version).
What exactly is wrong with dragonborn then? You've been consistently voting them out.
 

I expect that a Genasi will win because no one particularly dislikes then. My down votes went to thin out the Tieflings and to animals. I'll support Tolkien/mythological vs Genasi, and Genasi vs animals.
 

What exactly is wrong with dragonborn then? You've been consistently voting them out.

I think I've only downvoted Gem Dragonborn.

In general, I like(d) the concept of dragonborn. I'm less enthusiastic about the direction they're being taken in with 5.1 lore. Of those available, Gem are my least favorite.

I prefer lizardfolk because I like having a choice which has a somewhat alien mindset. Having been influenced by Golden Axe (as well as some older fantasy novels,) lizardfolk are a classic fantasy species to me. Having been influenced by Skyrim, I find the expression of sexual dimorphism in lizardfolk more interesting and creative than dragon-boobs.

Given a survivor thread, there is some overlap in the niche filled, so I voted in a way which favors the option I prefer.

In other ttrpgs and homebrew settings which I've run, both are typically same species, with "dragonborn" being viewed by lizardfolk in a manner similar to how humans would view aasimar.
 

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