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WotC Talks OGL... Again! Draft Coming Jan 20th With Feedback Survey; v1 De-Auth Still On

Following last week's partial walk-back on the upcoming Open Game Licence terms, WotC has posted another update about the way forward. The new update begins with another apology and a promise to be more transparent. To that end, WotC proposes to release the draft of the new OGL this week, with a two-week survey feedback period following it...

Following last week's partial walk-back on the upcoming Open Game Licence terms, WotC has posted another update about the way forward.

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The new update begins with another apology and a promise to be more transparent. To that end, WotC proposes to release the draft of the new OGL this week, with a two-week survey feedback period following it.


They also list a number of points of clarity --
  • Videos, accessories, VTT content, DMs Guild will not be affected by the new license, none of which is related to the OGL
  • The royalties and ownership rights clauses are, as previously noted, going away
OGL v1 Still Being 'De-Authorized'
However, OGL v1.0a still looks like it's being de-authorized. As with the previous announcement, that specific term is carefully avoided, and like that announcement it states that previously published OGL v1 content will continue to be valid; however it notably doesn't mention that the OGL v1 can be used for content going forward, which is a de-authorization.

The phrase used is "Nothing will impact any content you have published under OGL 1.0a. That will always be licensed under OGL 1.0a." -- as noted, this does not make any mention of future content. If you can't publish future content under OGL 1.0a, then it has been de-authorized. The architect of the OGL, Ryan Dancey, along with WotC itself at the time, clearly indicated that the license could not be revoked or de-authorized.

While the royalty and ownership clauses were, indeed, important to OGL content creators and publishers such as myself and many others, it is also very important not to let that overshadow the main goal: the OGL v1.0a.

Per Ryan Dancey in response this announcement: "They must not. They can only stop the bleeding by making a clear and simple statement that they cannot and will not deauthorize or revoke v1.0a".


Amend At-Will
Also not mentioned is the leaked draft's ability to be amended at-will by WotC. An agreement which can be unilaterally changed in any way by one party is not an agreement, it's a blank cheque. They could simply add the royalties or ownership clauses back in at any time, or add even more onerous clauses.

All-in-all this is mainly just a rephrasing of last week's announcement addressing some of the tonal criticisms widely made about it. However, it will be interesting to see the new draft later this week. I would encourage people to take the feedback survey and clearly indicate that the OGL v1.0a must be left intact.
 

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Weiley31

Legend
Like, you want to hear about what we thought of the Cleric in the feedback WoTC?

Continues talking about the OGL 1.0a and mentions *NOTHING about anything that was presented for the Cleric in the last playtest packet.*
 

jhallum

Explorer
I noticed that too.

For what it's worth, I think that a lot of people think that there's an expectation of give-and-take in this situation, where any instance of WotC walking things back should be met with a similar de-escalation of rhetoric, tension, etc. on the side of the people who are upset about what they're doing.

That belief strikes me as being ill-founded. Until and unless WotC dumps the entire idea of revoking the OGL v1.0a (which means outrightly saying "it's not revoked, it can't be revoked, we will not try to revoke it," even if their word is worth very little now) as well as outrightly stating that whatever new iteration of the OGL they put out will not have any clause allowing them to change its terms at will, then there is no compromise to be had.

Those two points are not negotiable, nor should they be.
I'm far from an apologist, but I'd be willing to have a true Open License that is modifiable through some sort of agreement process to modernize it. It should be modifiable in some way, but not revokable. I'm willing to see what they come up with as long as they agree that content is ok.

I'm also pretty sure that they can pull OneDND from the OGL and still allow it for other versions, which is a tactic I could see them implementing.
 


mamba

Legend
Because unless they can convince people that they're position on revocability isn't just, "We don't think we have much of a case, but we're confident we can lawfare publishers into submission," no publisher is going to sign up to accept their next offer, regardless of its language. Right?
I don’t know, I consider it a win given my three premises. Would I prefer 1.0a to stick around, sure, but I never was under the impression that this would be the end result.

If someone wants to sue WotC over the difference, they are welcome to
 


Haplo781

Legend
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It is the first lowest level of it... but it is

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You use link in to contact with people for getting and networking between jiobs, not so random people who are mad you work for a company they are mad at can find you (and possible target you)
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