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What's the WORST Star Wars movie?

What's the WORST Star Wars movie? (vote for up to 3)

  • Ep I: The Phantom Menace

    Votes: 52 33.1%
  • Ep 2: Attack of the Clones

    Votes: 50 31.8%
  • Ep 3: Revenge of the Sith

    Votes: 14 8.9%
  • Ep 4: A New Hope

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Ep 5: The Empire Strikes Back

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Ep 6: Return of the Jedi

    Votes: 3 1.9%
  • Ep 7: The Force Awakens

    Votes: 19 12.1%
  • Ep 8: The Last Jedi

    Votes: 56 35.7%
  • Ep 9: The Rise of Skywalker

    Votes: 95 60.5%
  • Rogue One

    Votes: 4 2.5%
  • Solo

    Votes: 16 10.2%

MGibster

Legend
"Sure, Alien: Covenant is bad, but it's not Rise of Skywalker bad."
I had a choice between seeing Wonder Woman and Alien: Coventant in the theaters and I choice the latter. It was a bad call, Whizbang. It was a bad call. I didn't see RoS in theaters because TLJ was so bad. I don't regreat my decision. Given the choice, I'd watch Covenant before RoS any day of the week.
 

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Haplo781

Legend
Nothing really stands out for me as an issue with the special edition of ESB, and with RotJ it's literally just the stupid beak on the Sarlacc. The only one that really bothers me is ANH - the overly-crowded streets of Mos Eisley, Han shooting first, and the Jabba scene which simultaneously ruins two reveals - the Falcon and Luke's "piece of junk" reaction, and of course Jabba.
Vader screaming NOOOOOO in the Blu-ray release was bad as well.
 

Vael

Legend
It's always the same attacks on TLJ and I tire of arguing them, but let's do this again:

1. Killing Snoke and Phasma was such a waste
Really? Snoke in TFA was literally just a talking head, so I struggle to see why he's so interesting. Also, his death is probably one of the more badass moments in TLJ. Taken out while reading the mind of the person that kills him, it's a great moment. Too often, you wonder, why wouldn't a telepath see their death coming? And this is a great way to show how it could happen.
As for Phasma, she has the Boba Fett disease. Great looking character, really built up, but also a bit of paper tiger. She also caves instantly in TFA and shuts down the shields guarding the planet and is ignomiously dumped in the garbage. That's all in the movie that introduces her. And again, it's not like her death is meaningless, it happens at the hands of Finn when he finally announces himself as "Rebel scum".

2. Finn has no character development and Canto Blight is a pointless diversion
I put these together because it's a weird contradiction I often see in all the fuming over this movie. Now, I'll confess that I think the pacing is a little off and that Canto Blight feels long. But it is a part of world-building and stuff that the prequels try and fail and that Andor does much better in showing class distinction and how people that aren't part of the Empire (or First Order) or the Rebellion (or Resistance) views the conflict. These are the ultra wealthy who's profits will be fine no matter who wins. And showing them is a key element in Finn's character development. In TFA, he was only about two things: getting away from the First Order and saving Rey. He never commits to anything outside of himself. That's how he starts in TLJ, and Canto Blight and DJ show him others who are the same moralistically speaking. So by when he finally calls himself "Rebel scum", that's him committing to a cause. That's been his arc.

3. Holdo Maneuver breaks Star Wars
Ah yes, the "I can believe in lasers blowing up planets, wizards with laser swords, but two ships smashing into one another causing a big explosion violates my suspension of disbelief" defence. Next thing you know, a fighter will somehow manage to take out a Super Star Destroyer that has only one bridge? Nonsense.

4. Having the First Order means that our heroes failed
First, no, they stopped the Empire and destroyed two superweapons that would've caused untold suffering and destruction. Second ... I dunno, do we think it was a failure to stand up to fascism 80 years ago, to see it still around today? That fact that evil returns doesn't negate it's earlier defeat.

Ultimately, TLJ gives me more than any other sequel movie and is second only to Andor in Disney era Star Wars content. Some literally breathtaking and iconic visuals, like the silence and shot of the Holdo maneuver, the red room aflame as Kylo and Rey fight the Imperial Guard, Luke facing down an entire army. Porgs and Crystal foxes. Luke's first lesson is both really funny and also a great explanation on the nature of the Force. Yoda, back to a puppet and back to the far more fun and eccentric self we saw in ESB.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
I had a choice between seeing Wonder Woman and Alien: Coventant in the theaters and I choice the latter. It was a bad call, Whizbang. It was a bad call. I didn't see RoS in theaters because TLJ was so bad. I don't regreat my decision. Given the choice, I'd watch Covenant before RoS any day of the week.

Covenant is better than RoS ymmv of course.
 





ThorinTeague

Creative/Father/Professor
And then Prometheus solidly proved that his ideas were dumb and bad, because he really did use the same ideas to make it. Then again with Covenant. Prometheus' terrible script isn't 100% him, but he demanded what elements were in it and kept firing people and replacing them over and over until it was appropriately horrible, at which point
I thought Prometheus and Covenant were both decent enough. It's not like they sunk to the levels of Alien 3 & 4.
 


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