D&D 5E What is REALLY wrong with the Wizard? (+)

[Micah Sweet]

Exactly, there are great narrative places to engage tracking but just not all time. But I wonder what DMs are doing to bleed off all the accumulated wealth? At least earlier editions had magic item costs you could craft and masterwork items.

WotC hasn't bothered with that since 5e came out. Don't worry, plenty of 3pp have some great uses for gold. You just have to stretch out of WotC's shadow.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Exactly, there are great narrative places to engage tracking but just not all time. But I wonder what DMs are doing to bleed off all the accumulated wealth? At least earlier editions had magic item costs you could craft and masterwork items.

me, I don't.

every longish campaign ends with players having dragon hoards worth of GP.

I also as a player just throw money around... last saterday we went to a temple of a god of knowledge and magic to ask for info... when we left I dropped 2,000 pp. a few weeks before I bough the rooms and drinks for the night and tipped 100pp to the bar

 

[Digdude]

As your DM, unless you were in a major city, I would have shown you the local destruction of the economy brought on by the sudden influx of that much gold, but I digress.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

As your DM, unless you were in a major city, I would have shown you the local destruction of the economy brought on by the sudden influx of that much gold, but I digress.

how? I would love to see how a church getting a huge donation destroys anything... they either hoard the money or spend it.
How about that tip to the bar owner... same thing.

this isn't 'printing more money' its just circulating money already there.

I am a money guy and I promise you if tomorrow a big celebraty comes to a small town in CT and buys a round of beers and tips the waitress $10,000 that will change her life but it wont effect the town.

If tomorrow bill gates or the amazon dude or the twitter guy come to CT and donate a million dollars to a local church they (the rich dude) wont notice it any more then you would throwing some pocket change, and that church may now have a lot to spend but it wont tank small town in CT economy

 

[James Gasik]

Want to not worry about having tons of gold? Play a Wizard. The costs for putting spells in your book are ridiculous. Meanwhile, while you're spending 150 gp to add a 3rd level spell to your roster, the Cleric is completely retooling his spell list from every Cleric spell in existence, lol.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Want to not worry about having tons of gold? Play a Wizard. The costs for putting spells in your book are ridiculous. Meanwhile, while you're spending 150 gp to add a 3rd level spell to your roster, the Cleric is completely retooling his spell list from every Cleric spell in existence, lol.

oh man 150 gold you say... AFTER my 4 free 3rd level spells. Lets look at my 9th level wizard/artificer... he has 1,750gp and 140pp (not counting silver copper or gems) on them... so if he wanted to copy 3rd level spells into his book I have 3,150gp worth of money I could spend... lets divide by 150 that's ONLY 21 3rd level spells.

 

[Micah Sweet]

oh man 150 gold you say... AFTER my 4 free 3rd level spells. Lets look at my 9th level wizard/artificer... he has 1,750gp and 140pp (not counting silver copper or gems) on them... so if he wanted to copy 3rd level spells into his book I have 3,150gp worth of money I could spend... lets divide by 150 that's ONLY 21 3rd level spells.

This is one reason why I feel wizards should have to seek out and/or create their spells, not just have them appear out of their heads like Athena.

 

[James Gasik]

oh man 150 gold you say... AFTER my 4 free 3rd level spells. Lets look at my 9th level wizard/artificer... he has 1,750gp and 140pp (not counting silver copper or gems) on them... so if he wanted to copy 3rd level spells into his book I have 3,150gp worth of money I could spend... lets divide by 150 that's ONLY 21 3rd level spells.

I'm a low level Wizard, lol. The Cleric is buying his plate mail with his share of our money, and I'm like "hm, my cut might just let me finish off the spells I've found to put into my book!".

 

[GMforPowergamers]

This is one reason why I feel wizards should have to seek out and/or create their spells, not just have them appear out of their heads like Athena.

I am divided on this... back in 2e we never gave wizards the free level up spells BUT we always made a promise as a DM to have enemy casters to get books from and libraries present. to do the research... over the last 23 years with more arcane casters (sorcerer, artificer, warlock and bards being a bit more castery) you are not guaranteed to run into enemy wizards with books... so I can see why the need to keep the free spells at level up

 

[Digdude]

how? I would love to see how a church getting a huge donation destroys anything... they either hoard the money or spend it.
How about that tip to the bar owner... same thing.

this isn't 'printing more money' its just circulating money already there.

I am a money guy and I promise you if tomorrow a big celebraty comes to a small town in CT and buys a round of beers and tips the waitress $10,000 that will change her life but it wont effect the town.

If tomorrow bill gates or the amazon dude or the twitter guy come to CT and donate a million dollars to a local church they (the rich dude) wont notice it any more then you would throwing some pocket change, and that church may now have a lot to spend but it wont tank small town in CT economy

Sadly, no use debating you as you're a money guy. But I guarantee if you throw that much money around every thief/scammer/thug in a thousand miles will be trying to get at you. Hope you hired the same muscle that Gates and Amazon dude hire.