Picard Season 3

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Well, episode 9 is a mixed bag. I'll spoiler my comments beyond that because I'm writing a few hours after it premiered and it's the most spoliery episode of the season.

But Data's sarcasm made me actually laugh for about 5 mins lol also give me Star Trek 3 vibes

 

[Stalker0]

Alright on to Epsiode 9!

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Ok in terms of master plans, that one was solid! The idea of using the teleporters to sneakily assimilate all of starfleet is insidious, genius, and just feels so Borg.

It also showcases that this plan was not all or nothing. Now sure from the villains perspective, grabbing all of starfleet in one go is the absolute optimal solution, but even if that hadn't worked, you can see scenarios where they could have grabbed ships more slowly, or still gotten the majority of the ships in one run and then taken out the others. This was a plan long in the making, and it could have easily been pursued in a number of different ways. That really shows the intelligence of the villains on this one and I appreciate that.

Now the question does come back up....why did it HAVE to be Jack? Now sure he has the seed, but is that really the only seed the queen would have planted? Could there not have been others? Or perhaps Picard did in fact have irumodic syndrome and part of that was why Jack works as well as he did, or something something. The problem is, there is nothing about Picard's experience that feels unique enough that it had to be Jack. The Queen could have done a locutus on millions of individuals and waited for proper children.

One thing this highlights....Picard is truly an inexperienced father, and really botched the interaction with Jack. The one thing Jack couldn't' stand was being abandoned, being alone. If Picard had hugged him during that scene, and said "Jack you have to go, and I'm going with you, I will be there with you every step of the way".... Jack might not have gone rogue. But ultimately Picard is truly starfleet first, father second....and it was that moment that shown through. That is honestly very in character for him, so I don't mind it. People could argue that Jack going rogue seems crazy, but honestly we have no idea how much influence the queen has at this point. The last opening of the door + feeling like his family has turned against him could have snapped the last bit of resistance left, and so off Jack goes.

While the "under 25" thing may seem a bit convenience, there is enough science behind it to be plausible. There are many genetic therapies we are looking at now that would work on children but not on adults for that very reason. Just because you have the ability to receive the signal, if the machinery hasn't been "grown" into you over time, it just may not have the roots needed to stick.

Having the changelings work together with the Borg is interesting. There is a lot of similarities, with a hive mind notion and a desire for totalitarian order. Combined with a mutual enemy in starfleet, yeah seems like reasonable bedfellows.

The Enterprise D as Georgi's equivalent of the "Hot Rod in the Garage" is perfect.

Now one thing I have forgotten from Picard's last season. Didn't Jirati become their new queen? Or was that a borg splinter cell or something I can't remember.

 

[Bayushi_seikuro]

I mean, I don't think the design-intention would normally be to "murder everyone on the bridge", but there are potentially situations where possibly killing people left on the bridge would be less bad than leaving miscreants on the bridge. Equally it could be used to vent goo or gas or whatever.

Sure transporters can move people, but they're constantly getting messed-with, and even in Trek they clearly have tech to work around them. I guess I find it reasonably plausible myself, given the numerous other bizarrely-specialized-seeming things we've seen Starfleet ships do - many of which Okuda was able to come up with good explanations for in various technical manuals.

I made the assumption that various sections of the ships are designed for evacuation in the sense of not having enough time or even power to use the transporters. Makes me think of school bus designs, with the back door for an emergency exit and the windows being able to be operated to use as escapes

 

[Ryujin]

I made the assumption that various sections of the ships are designed for evacuation in the sense of not having enough time or even power to use the transporters. Makes me think of school bus designs, with the back door for an emergency exit and the windows being able to be operated to use as escapes

for me, it's evac slides in a commercial airliner. In the even of a space landing, your cushion can be used as a breathing device.

 

[cranberry]

I never saw that coming... Really good episode! (Vox)

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I was guessing that Shelby would join the crew..but they killed her off, just like Ro.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

I seemed to have touched a nerve using the quote from Rises.

Oh for sure.

It was a bizarre pivot from the high-quality if very different styles of Batman of the previous two movies into a bizarrely and unnecessarily political and staunchly right-wing (if confused) take, which was almost entirely from the speeches characters gave, not what happened in the movie (the main exception being the magical cops, which was one of the most risible scenes in cinematic history - certainly from a major and skilled director), combined with the movie just... not being very good was kind of horrifying. Absolutely destroyed my faith in Nolan, who always previously seemed "Centrist Dad", politics-wise (i.e. largely inoffensive). As I said, the most bizarre thing about Gordon's speech is that Batman absolutely wasn't acting like that - he wasn't sticking his hands in filth - if anything, he was acting more like a holy martyr.

Of course his most recent film's main crime was nothing at all like that, just absolutely dire sound mixing combined with a plot that was both barely coherent and needlessly complex in way that had essentially nothing interesting or clever to say. I remember he claimed the dire sound mixing was to try and keep audiences watching, but I don't buy it - and as some with ADHD (which in many people causes it to be harder to pick out voices from background noise) it was incredibly awful.

There's a really funny Pitch Meeting about it:

 

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Absolutely destroyed my faith in Nolan, who always previously seemed "Centrist Dad", politics-wise (i.e. largely inoffensive).

so glad I'm able to enjoy something and not care about anything beyond the enjoyment.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

so glad I'm able to enjoy something and not care about anything beyond the enjoyment.

I'm not sure what that even means in English. It appears to not be a sentence lol.

 

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I'm not sure what that even means in English. It appears to not be a sentence lol.

It means I'm able to put aside anything other than just enjoying a move/tvshow. I don't care about the politics all i care is: "Do i like it?" .yes or no.

 

[bloodtide]

Spoiler: nine

So...the big bad are the Borg? And the Changelings just vanish?

Er...so when Picard was Locutus for like a day or two...the Borg were all like "we are the borg and we will win, but just in case lets alter Picards DNA for a secret plan that will take 30 years to do" Ok?

And....um...wait...what about the Good Borg with Agnus? Even Picard seems to forget about season 2....

And Borg Kidz? Um...nice spin to not have the main cast infected

The All of Starfleet did not look so good: more copy and paste like three starship models. They could have put a bit more effort in The Fleet.

And....Ro left the Titian with a "skeleton crew", yet there seem to be like 50 people still on board?

Hooray seeing Admiral Shelby...hope she did not die. And why was the Enterprise F bridge so empty?

And...Shaw...nooooooo....

And...wow....The enterprise D!

And..well, there is no plan other then lets fly to Earth where it will be 1000 starships vs one?