Picard Season 3

[Ryujin]

Maybe Jack is a 1ST Edition D&D Bard?

Takes forever to get there and then useless when he does? No, don't think so.

 

[Kaodi]

I just finished watching Season 3 with my Dad. I am kind of disappointed that after reading like the last 10 pages of the EN World Picard thread from the air date until now there did not actually seem like there was a heck of a lot about Picard.

But if there is one thing I want to say is that I do not think the post-credits scene rewrote Season 2 at all. Q literally chides Jack for "thinking so linearly" . Obviously for Q his interactions with Jack happen before Season 2, even if for everyone else in the series they happen after.

Also, I would rather like a new series for the new Enterprise. I think perhaps they could play around a bit with the fact that the new Enterprise is a refit of an older ship and not just the biggest, baddest ship in the fleet like its predecessors. It would not even have to be a full series, it could also be aimed at a two or three season arc, though perhaps a bit tighter than Picard.

And maybe I missed something so while it is a bit weird that Picard's Romulan gal-pal was jettisoned from the narrative I do not think anything in the season necessarily invalidated that. Some things might have been said, but its not like Troi was suddenly leaving Will for Worf either. They have been friends for a very long time, and Picard found out that they are irrevocably connected through their son.

The weirdest thing for me actually was the fact that Wesley never shows up, unless there was a very sneaky cameo. You would think he would at least want to meet his brother and make a snarky remark about Jack's dad, .

 

[Kaodi]

Actually turned my computer back on for one more quick thought before bed: I think it would be almost criminal if we did not get some sort of follow up on the institutional carnage that Frontier Day must have wrought on Starfleet. The Borg nu-Drones, all of whom were, relatively speaking, under the age of 25, too over the entire fleet and likely successfully murdered a massive number of "old" Starfleet officers. As such the upper ranks of Starfleet have likely been completely hollowed out. And it could be exciting to have almost a whole crew of young people in a position that challenges the "competence porn" of Star Trek because they lost much of the backbone of the job.

 

[MarkB]

Actually turned my computer back on for one more quick thought before bed: I think it would be almost criminal if we did not get some sort of follow up on the institutional carnage that Frontier Day must have wrought on Starfleet. The Borg nu-Drones, all of whom were, relatively speaking, under the age of 25, too over the entire fleet and likely successfully murdered a massive number of "old" Starfleet officers. As such the upper ranks of Starfleet have likely been completely hollowed out. And it could be exciting to have almost a whole crew of young people in a position that challenges the "competence porn" of Star Trek because they lost much of the backbone of the job.

Not to mention they're all going to have serious PTSD and guilt over what they did while Borgified. Basically every young officer in Starfleet now has Picard style post-Borg trauma, and every surviving older officer lost friends to them and has Shaw style post-Wolf-359 trauma.

 

[Kaodi]

Yes, I did not turn on my computer a second time last night but I was thinking then and this morning just now that Seven is the perfect captain for the Enterprise in an age where half the crew have been Borg for "18 min" as the woman who was Borg for 18 years is "queen" .

 

[Paul Farquhar]

The Borg are dead. Long live the Fedaborg!

 

[Benjamin Olson]

But if there is one thing I want to say is that I do not think the post-credits scene rewrote Season 2 at all. Q literally chides Jack for "thinking so linearly" . Obviously for Q his interactions with Jack happen before Season 2, even if for everyone else in the series they happen after.

I mean, on a lore and world-building front that's certainly true. Heck, it makes more sense that the dying Q of some far flung future should want to go back to screw with Picard one last time than that Q, a virtually timeless being, declined so much in the several decades since we last saw him before season 2. But, on a character arc and narrative level it absolutely lessens Q's season 2 finale. I'm certainly not bothered by it in principle (non-ominipotent linear beings become undead in Star Trek all the time, so it's rightfully trivial for Q). But I have mixed feelings about resurrecting a character who had been given a proper send-off if it's just for a tease.

 

[MarkB]

I mean, on a lore and world-building front that's certainly true. Heck, it makes more sense that the dying Q of some far flung future should want to go back to screw with Picard one last time than that Q, a virtually timeless being, declined so much in the several decades since we last saw him before season 2. But, on a character arc and narrative level it absolutely lessens Q's season 2 finale. I'm certainly not bothered by it in principle (non-ominipotent linear beings become undead in Star Trek all the time, so it's rightfully trivial for Q). But I have mixed feelings about resurrecting a character who had been given a proper send-off if it's just for a tease.

It does just feel like another instance of "what happens in Picard seasons 1 and 2 stays in Picard seasons 1 and 2". Nothing from those seasons really seems to stick.

 

[Zardnaar]

It does just feel like another instance of "what happens in Picard seasons 1 and 2 stays in Picard seasons 1 and 2". Nothing from those seasons really seems to stick.

I didn't hate those seasons. They're not great but I managed to watch them.

That means they're better than S1 of TNG and Voyager. Hell Discovery fits in there as well.

 

[MarkB]

I didn't hate those seasons. They're not great but I managed to watch them.

It's not that they're bad, it's just that they introduce elements that should have far-reaching consequences, but which aren't then picked up anywhere else - not even in later seasons of the same show.