WotC may have sent the Pinkertons to a magic leakers home. Update: WotC confirms it and has a response.

[Cadence]

Research shows that punishment doesn't actually deter crime.

Why Punishment Doesn't Reduce Crime

Wonder why the American criminal justice system is a dismal failure?

www.psychologytoday.com

Interesting that speeding tickets seem to work as a deterrent for subsequent speeding tickets for women, but not for men?

Do speeding tickets reduce the likelihood of receiving subsequent speeding tickets? A longitudinal study of speeding violators in Maryland - PubMed

Drivers who receive speeding citations are at increased risk of receiving subsequent speeding citations, suggesting that speeding citations have limited effects on deterrence in the context of the current traffic enforcement system. When comparing different penalties, PBJ is associated with a...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Homicidal_Squirrel]

Research shows that punishment doesn't actually deter crime.

Why Punishment Doesn't Reduce Crime

Wonder why the American criminal justice system is a dismal failure?

www.psychologytoday.com

Never said it was effective. It's just what's done.

What would your suggstion be? What would you have done if you were running WoTC and had to deal with this issue?

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Interesting that speeding tickets seem to work as a deterrent for subsequent speeding tickets for women, but not for men?

We are a very dumb gender, comparatively speaking.

 

[Homicidal_Squirrel]

Yep. That would be frustrating. Life is full of such frustrations.

Could also be financially harmful to some of those streamers.

 

[overgeeked]

Interesting that speeding tickets seem to work as a deterrent for subsequent speeding tickets for women, but not for men?

Do speeding tickets reduce the likelihood of receiving subsequent speeding tickets? A longitudinal study of speeding violators in Maryland - PubMed

Drivers who receive speeding citations are at increased risk of receiving subsequent speeding citations, suggesting that speeding citations have limited effects on deterrence in the context of the current traffic enforcement system. When comparing different penalties, PBJ is associated with a...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I'd assume it's mostly down to men making more money and being less risk adverse than women. A fine means it's illegal for poor people, but the rich just pay the fine and do it again because they can afford to.

 

[Bradjalon]

...from the timing of this it would appear that the cards had not reached distribution channels yet...

If the release date of the product is May 12th, then it's not unlikely they are already somewhere in distribution channels. Stores regularly break Lego's street days, sometimes over a month in advance. People having been posting reviews for weeks of the newest May 1st Lego sets. My understanding is Lego is known to fine stores that break the street date, but I've never heard of them going after consumers or youtubers who review the sets.*

If his distributor broke street date, wouldn't that be a breached contract with WoTC, but would not have made the goods stolen?

*Youtubers who manage to purchase the sets at retail before the street date, not youtubers who are part of the Lego Ambassador program and get sets early for review

 

[overgeeked]

Never said it was effective. It's just what's done.

So...if we know it's not effective...why are we doing it?

What would your suggstion be? What would you have done if you were running WoTC and had to deal with this issue?

1. Do not go after or harass your customers.
2. Profit.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

What would your suggstion be? What would you have done if you were running WoTC and had to deal with this issue?

Per my previous email:

If you reach out to him, go with a soft approach, appealing to his love of the game and the brand, offer him a bunch of swag and work up to getting the fan to "understand" that leaks are bad for the brand overall and seeing if he'd flip on his source. (Even then, checking his social media connections is a lot better way to do that and wouldn't tip him off that he's being investigated.)

You start with creating a list of who had access to the cards, figuring out where this particular batch came from and at what point it could have left the building. All of which could be done in-house (with or without thugs) and which would actually address the disease, not the symptoms.

But as I said previously, they should have approached him as fellow fans and talked to him about how they all want what's best for MTG and see if they can get the info from him in a way that wouldn't have him screaming and yelling about his treatment.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Could also be financially harmful to some of those streamers.

Let them take it to civil court, then.

But there is rarely a financial relationship between companies and the media that report on them. They just rotate exclusives (and use the carrot of more exclusives as a way to attempt to influence their behavior).

"Someone scooped me" is part of the biz.

 

[Cadence]

Research shows that punishment doesn't actually deter crime.

Why Punishment Doesn't Reduce Crime

Wonder why the American criminal justice system is a dismal failure?

www.psychologytoday.com

And I wonder what the research on (3) is at:

https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf