WotC may have sent the Pinkertons to a magic leakers home. Update: WotC confirms it and has a response.

[Sorcerers Apprentice]

I wasn't claiming it was a formal term.

So what were you claiming? Formal or informal, the phrase "IP" doesn't create property.

And what I find astonishing is the people who are attacking WotC for defending their intellectual property (an INFORMAL term), are the exact same people who are leaping to the defence of artists and writers against AI systems.

It's basically one law for corporations (boo hiss) and another for individuals (yay).

Massive hypocrisy.

Not that I'm one of those people, but there is nothing hypocritical about wanting individuals to have more rights than faceless corporations.

 

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

For the viewing audience... I have no idea who @Homicidal_Squirrel is. This is how I interact with perfect strangers.

 

[Ryujin]

I believe what you meant to say is that in Florida and Texas you're required to open your door blasting, just in case the person knocking intended to force their way in.

You aren't required to do so, however, it would be advisable to drag the body into your house if you do so

 

[Homicidal_Squirrel]

I'LL CARRY YOU WITH ME!

To quote Gloria gaynor, I will survive

 

[Homicidal_Squirrel]

For the viewing audience... I have no idea who @Homicidal_Squirrel is. This is how I interact with perfect strangers.

I don't get it. Isn't this typical human/squirrel interaction? Human ruins squirrel joke. Squirrel burns down the human's home state and takes over nation . Is't that how it is supposed to happen?

 

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

So what were you claiming? Formal or informal, the phrase "IP" doesn't create property.

Not that I'm one of those people, but there is nothing hypocritical about wanting individuals to have more rights than faceless corporations.

Right. But how do we separate that from the current conversation? There are two sides to this conversation to date: one that anoints the receiver of these Magic cards to sainthood (when circumstancial evidence seems to indicate the opposite) and the other that doesn't acknowledge at least the possibility of a jackbooted approach from Hasbro (as tenuous and unlikely as the possibility of nefariousness on the part of Hasbro might seem in my opinion... it is possible).

 

[Homicidal_Squirrel]

You aren't required to do so, however, it would be advisable to drag the body into your house if you do so

They are considered lawn ornaments in Florida & Texas.

 

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

To quote Gloria gaynor, I will survive

You'll be landing first. And not graceful like that.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

So what were you claiming? Formal or informal, the phrase "IP" doesn't create property.

I'm not creating anything. The concept of intellectual property implies that someone who creates something has some form of ownership over that thing. Of course the concept of an "idea" is difficult to pin down and define legally, but property is easier. If something can be property, then taking it without permission is theft.

There are some people who say that property is theft. And that would apply to intellectual property too. But that is generally people who don't have any.

Not that I'm one of those people, but there is nothing hypocritical about wanting individuals to have more rights than faceless corporations.

But corporations are not "faceless" are they? That is just a pejorative used to justify irrational prejudice, just like lots of other hate speech words. The truth is a corporation is a collection of individuals. Individuals created the art on those magic cards. Individuals wrote those rules. Individuals who depend on the corporation to pay their salaries, individuals who will suffer if the corporation is harmed.

 

[Sorcerers Apprentice]

Right. But how do we separate that from the current conversation? There are two sides to this conversation to date: one that anoints the receiver of these Magic cards to sainthood (when circumstancial evidence seems to indicate the opposite) and the other that doesn't acknowledge at least the possibility of a jackbooted approach from Hasbro (as tenuous and unlikely as the possibility of nefariousness on the part of Hasbro might seem in my opinion... it is possible).

We may never actually know the facts here. I'd like to hear the Pinkertons agents version of the story. From the actual agents who were on the assignment, not in some statement written by a WotC PR rep from half a continent away.